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PostSubject: Undrafted FA's   Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:20 am

Tracking the Kansas City Chiefs undrafted free agents

By Joel Thorman on Apr 27 2013, 5:50p 

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The Kansas City Chiefs made eight selections in the 2013 NFL Draft. Which undrafted free agents will soon join them on the Chiefs roster?

Use this as an open thread for the next few hours. There will probably be some reports surfacing regarding the KC Chiefs 2013 undrafted free agent signings. We'll use this post to track them to check back for updates.

Updates below...

Missouri DE Brad Madison

Vanderbilt DE Rob Lohr

Wisconsin-Milwaukee Demetrius Harris (former basketball player the Chiefs worked out)

Kansas FS Bradley McDougald

Jackson State WR Rico Richardson

Columbia DE/LB Josh Martin

Sacramento State TE TJ Knowles (who the Chiefs worked out)

Texas A&M DB C.J. Jones

University of Charleston RB Jordan Roberts

New Haven DT Raheem Stanley

Ole Miss OL A.J. Hawkins

Kansas DE/LB Toben Opurum

Maryland LB Darin Drakeford

Michigan WR Darryl Stonum (last played in 2010)

Kansas QB Dayne Crist

Alabama A&M RB Kaderius Lacey

Ole Miss DE E.J. Epperson

Oregon State OL Colin Kelly

Indiana C Will Matte

Toledo DE TJ Fatinikun

Tennessee QB Tyler Bray

Villanova LS Adam Nelson

Florida WR Frankie Hammond

Stanford WR Drew Terrell




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PostSubject: Re: Undrafted FA's   Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:26 am

Kind of excited to see them get Tyler Bray. From that bit in the draft with Gruden you can tell that Bray is really accurate. He's a little to accurate to the point he tries to put shit where it don't belong. If he can ever get his progressions figured out he could be something one day. Good bye Stanzi!
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PostSubject: Re: Undrafted FA's   Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:50 am

I love getting Bray. Stanzi is gone. I would have been happy with Bray over any of our picks past round 4. Very nice pick up.
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PostSubject: Re: Undrafted FA's   Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:47 am

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I love getting Bray. Stanzi is gone. I would have been happy with Bray over any of our picks past round 4. Very nice pick up.

I agree. I was thinking they needed to get Wilson or Barkley there at the start of the 4th. Getting Bray undrafted is a lot of value. From the 5th round on, I was like what the hell. It seems like the Chiefs went with physical potential over college production in some of these picks and that is little disappointing. This draft is a boom or bust draft. I always liked Herm's philosophy regarding production over combine stats. What the hell they were thinking with Cush is beyond me. Much better prospects were still on the board. I doubt Cush even makes the team. K State fans say Braden is a true fullback and was a big part of why their running game was successful. The Ivy league guy in the 7th was dominant at a lower level with 12 sacks but can he do it against a higher level? Some of these picks have a lot of "if's" in their sentences.
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PostSubject: Re: Undrafted FA's   Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:15 pm

Dorsey came from a good team built through the draft and he played a major role in it. He signed a lot of players so be could draft BPA. I've good a pretty good feeling about where Dorsey and Reid are taking this team. I'm pretty bummed that Jake Knott ended up with the Eagles though instead of the Chiefs.

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PostSubject: Re: Undrafted FA's   Sun Apr 28, 2013 5:09 pm

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I love getting Bray. Stanzi is gone. I would have been happy with Bray over any of our picks past round 4. Very nice pick up.

I agree. I was thinking they needed to get Wilson or Barkley there at the start of the 4th. Getting Bray undrafted is a lot of value. From the 5th round on, I was like what the hell. It seems like the Chiefs went with physical potential over college production in some of these picks and that is little disappointing. This draft is a boom or bust draft. I always liked Herm's philosophy regarding production over combine stats. What the hell they were thinking with Cush is beyond me. Much better prospects were still on the board. I doubt Cush even makes the team. K State fans say Braden is a true fullback and was a big part of why their running game was successful. The Ivy league guy in the 7th was dominant at a lower level with 12 sacks but can he do it against a higher level? Some of these picks have a lot of "if's" in their sentences.
I didnt get the commings pick. would have liked a Rambo late
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PostSubject: Re: Undrafted FA's   Sun Apr 28, 2013 6:12 pm

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BigRatt wrote:
Chiefs09 wrote:
I love getting Bray. Stanzi is gone. I would have been happy with Bray over any of our picks past round 4. Very nice pick up.

I agree. I was thinking they needed to get Wilson or Barkley there at the start of the 4th. Getting Bray undrafted is a lot of value. From the 5th round on, I was like what the hell. It seems like the Chiefs went with physical potential over college production in some of these picks and that is little disappointing. This draft is a boom or bust draft. I always liked Herm's philosophy regarding production over combine stats. What the hell they were thinking with Cush is beyond me. Much better prospects were still on the board. I doubt Cush even makes the team. K State fans say Braden is a true fullback and was a big part of why their running game was successful. The Ivy league guy in the 7th was dominant at a lower level with 12 sacks but can he do it against a higher level? Some of these picks have a lot of "if's" in their sentences.
I didnt get the commings pick. would have liked a Rambo late

The announcers at the draft wasn't hot on Rambo. They were saying his game lacks a lot.
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PostSubject: Re: Undrafted FA's   Sun Apr 28, 2013 6:56 pm

I get the feeling that Dorsey and Reid were trying to add guys with attitude in this draft. Fisher over the "soft" Joeckel. Kelce as an in line blocker. Nico Johnson as a thumper in the middle next to DJ. Commings as a physical DB to match up with TEs. Davis as the change of pace guy to Charles, who has both power and speed. Its really like we wanted to get some mean, physical guys in here which is one of the little things we really didnt have when we think about last season.

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PostSubject: Re: Undrafted FA's   Sun Apr 28, 2013 6:58 pm

A guy on twitter was saying to keep an eye on Darryl Stonum. Guy seems like one of those extremely talented kids who just got caught up in the wrong crowd. If him and Bray get their shit together, those 2 will be epic steals for UDFAs.

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PostSubject: Re: Undrafted FA's   Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:05 pm

It's nice to have someone that can cover TE's. not sexy, but it fills a big need.

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PostSubject: Re: Undrafted FA's   Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:45 pm

Chiefs continue to add Undrafted FA prospects.

West Alabama FS Otha Foster III

Louisville C Mario Benavides

West Alabama LB Ridge Wilson
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PostSubject: Re: Undrafted FA's   Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:01 pm

The place reporting were high on Benavides and Ridge Wilson both.
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PostSubject: Re: Undrafted FA's   Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:53 pm



Best of the rest: A look at 5 undrafted free agent signings who have a chance

By stagdsp on Apr 29 2013, 2:29p 45

Like the NFL Draft, and Joel taking a shower... it happens EVERY year. A couple of undrafted free agents stand out in training camp and find their way onto the roster.

As Andy Reid said:

"The second greatest number of starters in the National Football League besides first round picks are the college free agents you sign."

There are 30 current veterans on the Chiefs roster that were originally undrafted including Mike DeVito, Akeem Jordan, Chase Daniel, Terrance Copper, Husain Abdullah.

I'll take a quick look at the top five rated undrafted free agents that the Chiefs brought in this year.

Related: Tracking all the Chiefs undrafted free agent signings

1. Tyler Bray, QB 6'6, 232 lbs., Tennessee

He was the 92nd best player in the draft, but teams passed on him 254 times. Bray made the curious decision to leave Tennessee early, even though most experts believed he needed another year to develop and improve. Many said he has the best "arm talent" in the draft, and IF he can "get it together upstairs" he'll be a major steal.

Rob Rang of CBS said:

STRENGTHS: Bray possesses a great deal of natural arm talent and possesses even more confidence in his ability to fit the ball between tight windows. In this way, he is reminiscent of former SEC standout Jay Cutler(Vanderbilt).
WEAKNESSES: He boasts a very quick release but doesn't fully take advantage of his height due to a three-quarter delivery. He's also a bit lazy with his fundamentals, failing to step into the direction of his passes. This consistently forces his receivers to adjust to his throws, cutting down on the potential for yardage after the catch and leading his teammates into some hellacious hits.

COMPARES TO: Jay Cutler, Bears -- Like Cutler, Bray has tremendous arm strength - and confidence in it - but seems to enjoy the challenge of tougher throws and will often attempt them rather than take safer options.

Roster Spot competition: Bray will compete with Ricky Stanzi for the No. 3 QB job. Ultimately, I would think the Chiefs WANT Bray to win the job... but he could also find himself on the practice squad, learning how to be a pro.

2. Mario Benavides, C 6'3, 297 lbs., Louisville

He was the 12th rated center in the draft, as high as the 211th overall player. From CBS:

STRENGTHS: Possesses the quick hands and feet to be successful in a zone-blocking scheme. Impressive lateral agility as a trap blocker and shows the short-area quickness to get to the second level. Surprisingly stout when anchoring against the bull rush due to good core strength and excellent use of leverage. Adept at shotgun snapping. Highly intelligent. Made all of the line calls while at Louisville and shows good awareness, making late adjustments to handle surprise blitzes. Keeps his head on a swivel and is highly competitive, helping out his teammates and looking to knock defenders over when he senses them off-balance. Proved high toughness by playing through multiple injuries over his career.
WEAKNESSES: Struggled against power when pitted against bigger, more physical defenders. Gets by on guile, toughness, leverage and hand play but might be maxed out. Too often makes it to the second level only to see defenders beat him to the punch. Has fought through various injuries throughout his career (staph infection, MCL tear, among them), which will need to be checked out by NFL teams.

Roster spot competition: I mentioned above that Mario was the 12th rated center in the draft...ironically, he'll be competing with the 11th best center in the draft, 6th round pick Eric Kush, for a depth spot on the 53 man roster.

3. Brad Madison, DE/LS 6'4, 265 lbs., Missouri

Grades on Madison vary pretty widely, but Mocking The Draft had him as their 240th ranked player in the draft. From CBS:

Madison isn't an elite athlete but he shows some natural pass rush ability, varying his approach off the snap. He has enough speed to force offensive tackles to respect his ability to cross their face and get outside, as well as a stutter-step back inside and a swim move. Prior to the injury Madison showed good strength in holding up versus the run and has some natural explosiveness to him, as evidenced by the fact that he was the Missouri state shot-put champion his senior year in high school. Madison isn't going to wow scouts with his skill-set but could earn late round consideration

Bleacher Report had a pretty nice piece on him here:


Strengths: During his sophomore year at Mizzou, Madison led the team with 7.5 sacks, which was the fourth-highest number in the Big 12. He has solid speed, as his 4.81 40-yard dash at the Mizzou pro day would have kept pace with Sam Montgomery at the combine. Madison has a nice spin move that he uses once there is initial contact with the offensive lineman. It gives him the separation he needs to get after the quarterback. Lastly, he doesn't quit on plays.

Tools: Madison has typical 4-3 defensive end size at 6'4" and 265 pounds. He has decent arm length (33.125") that should help him fend off offensive tackles and knock down passes.

Roster spot competition/outlook: My guess is that he has an outside chance to add some weight and be a situational pass rusher as a DE, which is a position of need.

4. Rob Lohr, DE 6'3, 297 lbs., Vanderbilt

From NFL Draft Scout:

Lohr started every game at tackle, running his consecutive career total to 38 starts... Ranks third on team with 11 tackles for loss... Ranks as team's active leader with 31.5 career tackles for loss and 11 sacks... Has notched 30 tackles and a pair of sacks as a senior, and is playing his best football late in the season... Was superb in thrilling win at Ole Miss with five solo tackles, three resulting in losses... Also had pair of tackles for loss and a sack vs. UMass... Finished regular season with six-solo tackle performance in win at Wake Forest... Added two tackles in Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl victory over North Carolina State.

Roster Spot competition/outlook: KC didn't draft any DE's this year, so Lohr could have a shot at cracking the roster as a base DE

5. Otha Foster III, SS 6'0, 204lbs West Alabama

One of two guys KC signed from West Alabama, I'm including Otha here, even though he was hard to find on anyone's player rankings... because this tweet caught my eye:

That's above market value for an UDFA... KC really wanted this guy.

I found this article here... thought it was interesting insight into the Chiefs perceived needs:

Foster, a former marine, was also a key player for the Tigers, earning some all-conference and All-America honors. Kansas City scouted Foster several times this season. He had 54 tackles and six interceptions for the Tigers this year.

"He's just a tremendous person," Hall said. "You're talking about a guy that's a marine. He's a big, physical safety. He ran a 4.4 consistently for the scouts and may have popped a 4.3 at Troy's Pro Day. The Chiefs have loved him all along and they seem to indicate that they needed speed in the secondary. He's a great player and an even better person."

Roster Spot competition/outlook: There are only two strong safeties on the Chiefs roster -- Eric Berry and Husain Abdullah. Foster could compete to be the third, or more likely get a practice squad contract.
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PostSubject: Re: Undrafted FA's   Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:22 pm

Tyler Bray and Da'Rick Rodgers were both extremely talented at their positions but went undrafted. Im glad we were able to land Bray. We've got some pretty talented undrafted guys on this roster honestly. Preseason is going to be exciting this year for sure.

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PostSubject: Re: Undrafted FA's   Wed May 01, 2013 12:22 am

Very excited about what's happening in KC.

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PostSubject: Re: Undrafted FA's   Wed May 01, 2013 5:05 pm

Didn't we also get a safety from Kansas after the draft? I was hearing he is decent. Damn can't think of his name at the moment.
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PostSubject: Re: Undrafted FA's   Wed May 01, 2013 7:15 pm

Kansas FS Bradley McDougald?


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PostSubject: Re: Undrafted FA's   Wed May 01, 2013 9:03 pm

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Kansas FS Bradley McDougald?


Yep thats the guy. Guess he was on the list above I just over looked him. But I hear this kid has talent. Just a lil raw. Only time will tell.
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