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PostSubject: Mayock Post Combine   Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:57 pm

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By Mike Mayock

Published: March 1, 2013 at 1:30 PM
Modified: March 1, 2013 at 1:31 PM
» Mayock's pre-combine rankings

With the NFL Scouting Combine in the rearview mirror, Mike Mayock unveils the second edition of his position-by-position draft prospect rankings for the 2013 NFL Draft.

QUARTERBACK
1. Geno Smith, West Virginia
2. Matt Barkley, USC
3. Mike Glennon, NC State
4. Ryan Nassib, Syracuse
5. Landry Jones, Oklahoma

RUNNING BACK
1. Eddie Lacy, Alabama
2. Montee Ball, Wisconsin
3. Andre Ellington, Clemson
4. Giovani Bernard, North Carolina
5. Marcus Lattimore, South Carolina

WIDE RECEIVER
1. Cordarrelle Patterson, Tennessee
2. Keenan Allen, Cal
3. Tavon Austin, West Virginia
4. Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech
5. DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson

New entry: Hopkins
Rise: Austin (4), Patton (5)
Out: Terrance Williams, Baylor (3)

TIGHT END
1. Tyler Eifert, Notre Dame
2. Zach Ertz, Stanford
3. Gavin Escobar, San Diego State
4. Travis Kelce, Cincinnati
5. Vance McDonald, Rice

New entry: McDonald
Out: Jordan Reed, Florida (5)

CENTER
1. Travis Frederick, Wisconsin
2. Brian Schwenke, Cal
3. Barrett Jones, Alabama
4. Khaled Holmes, USC
5. Braxston Cave, Notre Dame

GUARD
1. Chance Warmack, Alabama
2. Jonathan Cooper, North Carolina
3. Larry Warford, Kentucky
4. Kyle Long, Oregon
5. Brian Winters, Kent State

TACKLE
1. Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M
2. Eric Fisher, Central Michigan
3. Lane Johnson, Oklahoma
4. D.J. Fluker, Alabama
T-5. Menelik Watson, Florida State
T-5. Justin Pugh, Syracuse

4-3 DEFENSIVE END
1. Bjoern Werner, Florida State
2. Ezekiel Ansah, BYU
3. Damontre Moore, Texas A&M
4. Sam Montgomery, LSU
5. Tank Carradine, Florida State

3-4 DEFENSIVE END
1. Star Lotulelei, Utah
2. Margus Hunt, SMU
3. Datone Jones, UCLA
4. Jesse Williams, Alabama
5. William Gholston, Michigan State

DEFENSIVE TACKLE
1. Sharrif Floyd, Florida
2. Sheldon Richardson, Missouri
3. Sylvester Williams, North Carolina
4. Kawann Short, Purdue
5. Johnathan Hankins, Ohio State

Rise: Richardson (3), Williams (4), Short (5)
Out: Star Lotulelei, Utah (2)

4-3 OUTSIDE LINEBACKER
1. Jarvis Jones, Georgia
2. Khaseem Greene, Rutgers
3. Arthur Brown, Kansas State
4. Sio Moore, UConn
5. Chase Thomas, Stanford

3-4 OUTSIDE LINEBACKER
1. Dion Jordan, Oregon
2. Jamie Collins, Southern Miss
3. Barkevious Mingo, LSU
4. Michael Buchanan, Illinois
5. Corey Lemonier, Auburn

INSIDE LINEBACKER
1. Alec Ogletree, Georgia
2. Manti Te'o, Notre Dame
3. Kevin Minter, LSU
4. Kevin Reddick, North Carolina
5. Kiko Alonso, Oregon

CORNERBACK
1. Dee Milliner, Alabama
2. Xavier Rhodes, Florida State
3. Desmond Trufant, Washington
4. Blidi Wreh-Wilson, Connecticut
5. B.W. Webb, William & Mary

New entry: Wreh-Wilson, Webb
Rise: Trufant (4), Patton (5)
Out: Johnthan Banks, Mississippi State (3); Jordan Poyer, Oregon State (5)

SAFETY
1. Kenny Vaccaro, Texas
2. Matt Elam, Florida
3. Johnathan Cyprien, Florida International
4. Eric Reid, LSU
5. Shamarko Thomas, Syracuse

New entry: Thomas
Out: Zeke Motta, Notre Dame (5)

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PostSubject: Re: Mayock Post Combine   Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:26 pm

Can't believe Wilson isn't a top 5 QB. Heard he is a 3rd round prospect now.
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PostSubject: Re: Mayock Post Combine   Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:23 am

Well the draft is wide open right now...

I knew Albert would be back, but I didn't expect Winston to be cut.... Do we draft a "LT" Number 1 and play in at RT for a year? Or do we play Albert at RT for a year?

I'm still hoping we don't go with the OL #1, but might be the biggest hole now. We now have Alex Smith and Chase Daniel... adding Geno would still be great IMO and we wouldn't have to play him until hes ready.

Miller was a nice choice, until we added Sean Smith...

Basically it comes down to drafting a RT or a DE... I still think Geno has a slim chance though... Reid loves him some QB's and Geno looked good at his Pro Day. Completed like 42 of 46 passes or something like that?

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PostSubject: Re: Mayock Post Combine   Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:28 am

We also have a gaping hole at the LB position..
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PostSubject: Re: Mayock Post Combine   Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:39 am

True, but I really doubt Ogletree or Te'o get drafted #1 overall. We'd really have to trade down if we want to draft one in the first. I personally would LOVE Jake Knott or AJ Klein in the middle-late draft. At least as a backup if we manage to find a LB somewhere else.

Floyed, Richardson, or Star(whats the scoop on this guy again?) could be options now that Dorsey is gone. Unless they think DeVito is our starter.

Our BIGGEST holes are RT and ILB though. DE would probably be third.

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PostSubject: Re: Mayock Post Combine   Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:46 am

After Geno's Pro Day, Mayock is now calling Geno a Top 10 talent. I would still take him.

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PostSubject: Re: Mayock Post Combine   Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:00 am

I just don't like picking a guy 1st overall and having that pick ride the bench, but I read that the Chiefs are now looking at OT Geoff Schwartz in FA..

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Chiefs staying busy, visiting today with Vikings free-agent OT Geoff Schwartz, whom they are expected to sign.
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If this is the case, is Joekel out, as well???
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PostSubject: Re: Mayock Post Combine   Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:12 pm

They want to fill all needs in free agency, and take the BPA throughout the draft. I'm starting to think Geno might happen. Smith gets to lead us to the playoffs for a year or two before we trade him and Geno takes over. If Smith gets hurt we can play Chase and do the same thing. Geno has the talent to be great, he made scouts gasp at his pro day and nailing throws 40 yards out with great accuracy.

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PostSubject: Re: Mayock Post Combine   Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:37 pm

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They want to fill all needs in free agency, and take the BPA throughout the draft. I'm starting to think Geno might happen. Smith gets to lead us to the playoffs for a year or two before we trade him and Geno takes over. If Smith gets hurt we can play Chase and do the same thing. Geno has the talent to be great, he made scouts gasp at his pro day and nailing throws 40 yards out with great accuracy.

Game play and combine are a different thing...

He shit the bed in the Pinstripe Bowl..I tuned in especially to watch him and he didn't really impress me all that much...He didn't look good under pressure and throwing outside the pocket..
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PostSubject: Re: Mayock Post Combine   Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:50 pm

42 TD's, 6 INT's and over 70% of your passes in a downfield offense is impressive no matter how you spin it. He also looked good his sophomore year in a Pro Style offense. Sure he needs coached up, but he has one if the best coaching staffs imaginable to do that. He has Smith and Daniel to compete and make him better.

He will learn a lot on the bench for a year or two, and those "weaknesses" will be gone just like with Rodgers.

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PostSubject: Re: Mayock Post Combine   Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:49 pm

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They want to fill all needs in free agency, and take the BPA throughout the draft. I'm starting to think Geno might happen. Smith gets to lead us to the playoffs for a year or two before we trade him and Geno takes over. If Smith gets hurt we can play Chase and do the same thing. Geno has the talent to be great, he made scouts gasp at his pro day and nailing throws 40 yards out with great accuracy.

Game play and combine are a different thing...

He shit the bed in the Pinstripe Bowl..I tuned in especially to watch him and he didn't really impress me all that much...He didn't look good under pressure and throwing outside the pocket..

Their whole bowl game was a joke. It was snowing and windy also I believe..but regardless Geno still tossed for almost 200 yards and 2 TDs.

When it comes down to it, he's absolutely got the skill set and has the right attitude you want in a QBOTF.

We have a great rushing attack with Charles, great mentors with Alex/Chase, and an excellent coach in Andy Reid. Not to mention their OC Doug Pederson was a former QB himself. This is absolutely the best situation a QB like Geno could walk into. If he learns like he says he wants to and works hard like he says he will, he will become one of the better QBs in the game.

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PostSubject: Re: Mayock Post Combine   Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:19 pm

I have no problem with kid..He may be a good prospect, but do we use the 1st overall pick on a project? Remember, Rodgers was a late 1st rounder..Apples to oranges..
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PostSubject: Re: Mayock Post Combine   Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:54 pm

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I have no problem with kid..He may be a good prospect, but do we use the 1st overall pick on a project? Remember, Rodgers was a late 1st rounder..Apples to oranges..

Rodgers was expected to be a top 10 pick as well though. Teams didnt like the offense Rodgers was coming out of..just like Geno. Nearly every criticism Rodgers had are similar to what they say about Geno. At this point we have no real holes to fill besides ILB next to DJ and theres nobody even remotely worth the #1 pick at that position. So yes, I think we can use the 1st overall pick on a project.

Most of the time the team with the #1 overall pick has many holes. This team just completely underachieved this season. Honestly were probably the most talented team with the 1st overall pick in a long long time.

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PostSubject: Re: Mayock Post Combine   Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:33 pm

In the end, I just want us to not waste the pick..I hope he is a good player and is with us for his entire career..
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PostSubject: Re: Mayock Post Combine   Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:12 am

So you wouldn't draft Rodgers number one is what you're saying? We have no holes, and there are no elite prospects. We are in a luxury position, take the guy who gives you the most upside.

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