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PostSubject: Chiefs coaching staff rumors   Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:37 pm

Reid will take hands-on approach with Chiefs offense
By Jason La Canfora | CBS Sports NFL Insider
January 4, 2013 8:12 pm ET

New Kansas City Chiefs coach Andy Reid is expected to be more hands-on running the Chiefs offense, including playcalling, according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

Reid is mulling his new staff and has considered names like former Browns head coach Pat Shurmur, but, at this point, is leaning toward a younger staff, given his more direct approach with this offense.

Longtime offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg will not be going to Kansas City with Reid and at this point, it's unlikely longtime offensive line coach/defensive coordinator Juan Castillo will, either. Castillo is drawing interest in both of those roles he once served under Reid. Defensively, there have been rumors of Monte Kiffin as Reid's coordinator on that side of the ball, but that is very unlikely sources said (Reid has thought highly of Ed Donatell, now coaching the 49ers defensive backs, in the past, sources said, and Jacksonville's Mel Tucker could be an option as well).

On the personnel side, Green Bay executive John Dorsey is all but certain to serve as general manager under Reid -- Reid will report directly to owner Clark Hunt -- and the team will add other personnel men as well, as the Chiefs franchise is remade following the departure of former general manager Scott Pioli.

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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs coaching staff rumors   Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:23 pm

I don't care what anyone says, not having coordinators on each side of the ball really stinks..I hope to God Reid brings in someone to run the OFF/DEF and doesn't handle either while trying to coach....
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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs coaching staff rumors   Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:44 am

Packers' John Dorsey is the 'clear-cut favorite' and 'all but certain' for Chiefs GM job

By Joel Thorman on Jan 5, 8:23a 10

Now that the Chiefs coaching search has died down it's time to turn to the GM. There are two names which have consistently been brought up -- Packers executive John Dorsey and former Browns GM (and Eagles personnel man) Tom Heckert.

All signs are pointing to the Kansas City Chiefs new GM being John Dorsey, the director of operations for the Green Bay Packers. Nothing is official yet -- heck, Andy Reid hasn't even been introduced yet -- but Dorsey is clearly the No. 1 candidate, according to the various reports out there.

Let's start locally and move nationally.

Adam Teicher is on the Dorsey train. As you'll see, not everyone agrees on Heckert.

Also looking like Green Bay's John Dorsey will be GM and not Tom Heckert, who once worked with Reid in Philly
— Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) January 4, 2013

CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora writes it is "all but certain" Dorsey will land in KC.

On the personnel side, Green Bay executive John Dorsey is all but certain to serve as general manager under Reid -- Reid will report directly to owner Clark Hunt -- and the team will add other personnel men as well, as the Chiefs franchise is remade following the departure of former general manager Scott Pioli.

If "all but certain" isn't your cup of tea, how about it's his "if he wants it"?

Also some info on possibilities of other Chiefs staff in that link. The GMs job is John Dorsey's if he wants it, but Reid runs the show...
— Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) January 5, 2013

Or "clear-cut favorite".

And again -- not sure if it made it on-air tonight -- John Dorsey is the clear-cut favorite to become KC's GM. Heckert's second on the list.
— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) January 5, 2013

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport hears BOTH could be coming to Kansas City.

Landed in LA, this may be out there: Hearing Andy Reid is telling people he hopes to bring both Tom Heckert & Packers exec John Dorsey to KC
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) January 4, 2013

Tom Heckert has canceled his interview with the Jets #NYJ
— Brian Costello (@BrianCoz) January 5, 2013

Behind every great man, there's a great woman. Via ESPN's Jason Wilde:

In addition, Dorsey's wife, Patricia A. Sexton-Dorsey, is a lawyer in a Kansas City-based law firm, although the couple lives in De Pere with their two children, Jack, 1, and Catherine, 3, and she works from here.
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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs coaching staff rumors   Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:48 am

Reid has always been very hands on with his offenses. He knows how to call plays and is one of the best offensive minds in football.
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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs coaching staff rumors   Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:39 pm

Chiefs reportedly have fired all coaches besides Emmitt Thomas and Gary Gibbs. Lovie smith had expressed interest in #Chiefs DC Job.

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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs coaching staff rumors   Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:43 pm

Monte Kiffen is the favorite to land the job so far, who would bring along Rod Marinelli as his DL coach.

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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs coaching staff rumors   Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:23 pm

Gibbs wasn't fired? Why are people spectating who the DC will be if we are keeping the current one?
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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs coaching staff rumors   Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:59 pm

Doubt Lovie happens... I'm sure he's still working on landing a HC gig. Kiffen at least runs the 4-3 under if we can't stick 3-4. Gibbs being retained is interesting since he was DC, hopefully it's a LB coach though because they have been damn fine under him.

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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs coaching staff rumors   Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:46 am

Chiefs to name Dorsey GM, Childress OC.

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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs coaching staff rumors   Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:28 am

Hell im not against keeping Gibbs at DC at all. I thought after he took over he did a pretty good job with our defense. Id rather have him than Kiffin honestly.

I really dont see Lovie taking a DC position, but if he is willing to accept that position i'd take him in a heartbeat.

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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs coaching staff rumors   Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:17 am

Kansas City Chiefs: Sources tell us the Chiefs have requested permission to interview New York Jets linebackers coach Bob Sutton for their defensive coordinator

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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs coaching staff rumors   Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:36 pm

The Chiefs are not considering Brad Childress for offensive coordinator, but are expected to hire him as an offensive assistant. Cleveland's offensive coordinator last season, Childress spent seven years as an Andy Reid assistant in Philadelphia, including three as coordinator. "Chilly" will likely be one of many former Reid confidants brought to Kansas City.
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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs coaching staff rumors   Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:38 pm

Looks like Matt Nagy as QB coach, Pederson as OC, and Childress as senior offensive assistant.

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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs coaching staff rumors   Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:49 am

Im fine with all of that. Pederson is a former NFL QB. If he starts to struggle, he'll have Childress and Reid there to help him through and grow. I like the idea of Reid growing his own OC here in KC.

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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs coaching staff rumors   Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:25 pm

The Chiefs are expected to hire Doug Pederson as their offensive coordinator. Pederson was a backup with the Packers, Eagles and Browns during his playing days, which ended in 2004. He signed on as an quality control coach with Andy Reid and the Eagles in 2009 and served as the quarterbacks coach in each of the last two years. He'll have plenty of support in his first stint as a coordinator -- Brad Childress is expected to sign on as an assistant and Reid himself is a good bet to be calling the plays.
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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs coaching staff rumors   Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:41 pm



Monte Kiffin to the Chiefs isn't happening, according to report

By Joel Thorman on Jan 10, 1:14p 9

Rumors have been swirling around the Kansas City Chiefs coaching staff since Andy Reid was hired. One of those rumors -- that Reid was interested in Monte Kiffin to run his defense -- won't be coming to fruition, according to a report.
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Monte Kiffin was a rumored name for the Kansas City Chiefs defensive coordinator job but he will not be the Chiefs next defensive coordinator, according to a report from ESPN Dallas.

To recap: a couple rumors were floating around that the Chiefs were interested in Kiffin, which led to this piece from KaloPhoenix wondering how the Chiefs could do in Kiffin's 4-3 defense.

Now the latest news, via ESPN Dallas:

Andy Reid was interested in appointing Kiffin to be his defensive coordinator when he took over the Kansas City Chiefs but Kiffin was not interested in that opportunity.

So, that's that.

Kiffin is reportedly the target of the Dallas Cowboys, who fired Rob Ryan this week. Cowboys fans don't seem that excited about the possibility of Kiffin.

We're no closer to figuring out who the Chiefs coordinator will be, let alone whether they'll run a 3-4 or a 4-3.
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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs coaching staff rumors   Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:28 pm

Chiefs are interviewing the Bears ST coordinator, Dave Toub,

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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs coaching staff rumors   Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:28 pm

Tommy Brasher to be hired as DL coach.

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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs coaching staff rumors   Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:25 am

also hearing Rob Ryan as DC
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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs coaching staff rumors   Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:42 am

Rob Ryan has never been on a team with a winning record. Or ever really had that good of a defense either. He's no Rex.

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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs coaching staff rumors   Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:35 am

@Jacobs71: Per @RoobCSN Eugene Chung is expected to be Reid’s OL coach and Eric Bienemy is expected to be RBs coach.

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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs coaching staff rumors   Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:56 am

Report: Bob Sutton will be Chiefs new defensive coordinator

By Joel Thorman on Jan 11, 7:28a 27

One day after reports surfaced that Monte Kiffin wasn't interested in running the Chiefs defense, a new report states the Chiefs are likely to hire Bob Sutton, a Jets assistant coach, for their defensive coordinator position.

The Kansas City Chiefs may have a new defensive coordinator. Maybe. At least reportedly. Manish Mehta of the NY Daily News, who covers the New York Jets, reported in this article that the Chiefs requested permission to interview Bob Sutton, the Jets linebackers coach. This morning, he had an update:

Heard last night that Chiefs requested permission to interview Bob Sutton. Now, I'm hearing Sutton will be Chiefs defensive coordinator #nyj
— Manish Mehta(@MMehtaNYDN) January 11, 2013

Unconfirmed and all that. This is not a name that was on my radar.

(This could signal the Ryan bros teaming up in New York.)

Reports: Doug Pederson the Chiefs OC | More coaching rumors

Sutton has been with the Jets for 13 years. He started off as the linebackers coach for five years before becoming the defensive coordinator for two years. Rex Ryan kept him when he was hired in 2009, becoming an senior defensive assistant / linebackers coach. In 2012, he was made assistant head coach / linebackers coach.

Before the Jets he was the head coach at Army, and before that he was an assistant coach at Army.

Here's a little more on where he's been, via the Jets:

Served as the running backs' coach at North Carolina State under Monte Kiffin in 1982...Two tours at Western Michigan under Elliott Uzelac (1980-81 and 1975-76), serving first as defensive coordinator and later as offensive coordinator...Defensive coordinator and linebackers' coach at Illinois (1977-79) under Gary Moeller...In 1974, he was the linebackers' coach at Syracuse for Frank Maloney...In 1972-73 Sutton had his first coaching job as a graduate assistant at Michigan for Bo Schembechler.

Like every other coaching rumor and report so far, this is unconfirmed.

Update: The 3-4 will stay?

Likely means KC will keep 3-4. MT @mmehtanydn: From today's @nydailynews: Now hearing Sutton to be Chiefs DC nydn.us/VP2yj8
— Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) January 11, 2013
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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs coaching staff rumors   Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:04 pm

From what I gathered, the staff will all be announced at once.

OC -Doug Pederson
QB coach - Matt Nagy
RB coach - Eric Bienemy
WR coach - David Culley
TE coach - Tom Melvin
OL - Eugene Chung
DC - Bob Sutton
DL - Tom Brasher
LB - Gary Gibbs
DB - Emmitt Thomas/Otis Smith *assistant
ST- Dave Toub

Senior offensive assistant/Assistant HC - Brad Childress

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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs coaching staff rumors   Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:47 pm

Arrowhead Pride did a write up on Sutton.

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With reports that Bob Sutton will become the Chiefs next defensive coordinator, Kalo takes a deeper look at his schemes, successes, and what it means for the Chiefs.
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Well, Chiefs fans, the latest reports say it's Bob Sutton for defensive coordinator. For most, this is a very underwhelming move. Chiefs fans were hoping to really get a big name guy to turn the talent on this team around. Unfortunately, with all the head coaching jobs open, solid coordinators were being picked for head coaching jobs, or are still holding out for them.

The Chiefs have their guy, though, so let's take a look at what he's done in his career.

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After doing just about everything in the college game for various teams (linebackers coach, running backs coach, defensive coordinator, quarterbacks coach, offensive coordinator, and wide receivers coach), Sutton landed at Army. He started there as a defensive coordinator from 1983-1991, where he then took over as head coach. He went 44-55-1 over the next nine years, with 1996's birth in the Independence Bowl (and top 25 ranking) earning him the Bobby Dodd Coach of the Year award.

He joined the New York Jets in 2000 as a linebackers coach. At that time, the Jets still had a 3-4 system installed. In that year, he gave outside linebacker Mo Lewis the most opportunities to rush the passer he'd had in his career and sent him to his third consecutive Pro Bowl with 10 sacks and a pick.

For the next four years, the switch to the 4-3 defense was made. It wasn't very successful, and with Mo Lewis declining in ability and the trade of James Farrior, new linebacker Jonathan Vilma was shouldering most of the load. There were two different defensive coordinators during that time -- both retained Sutton as their linebackers coach. When Herm Edwards was traded after the 2005 season to our very own Chiefs, Eric Mangini stepped in as head coach and entrusted Sutton to run the defense after helping Vilma to a Pro Bowl nod the year before.

In 2006, the defense was a 2-gapping 3-4, but with some undersized players. Sutton had taken the Herm's Tampa 2 12th ranked defense and dropped it to 20th due in part to some key losses in Pro Bowlers Ty Law and John Abraham (via trades). The second ranked pass defense dropped to 14th, and the 29th ranked run defense stayed low at 24th. One thing that did improve that year, however, was that the Jets all of the sudden had a top 10 team in points allowed.

The next year, Sutton got some help in the draft. The Jets took CB Darrelle Revis in the first round and LB David Harris in the second round to replace departing LB Jonathan Vilma, who was rumored to hate the switch to the 3-4. The increases in production were marginal, and fans began to doubt whether the team had the personnel to even run the defense that they were putting on the field. NJ.com even wrote an article questioning the decision making:

Nonetheless, Mangini insists he doesn't play the traditional 3-4 defense that requires a 350-pound nose tackle as an anchor. He says he uses an array of different fronts.

"The 3-4 comes in a lot of flavors," defensive coordinator Bob Sutton concurs.

Fact is, the Jets are trying to play the defense with 4-3 personnel. Only former Cowboys defensive end Kenyon Coleman, a fifth-year pro, has extensive experience in the defense. Privately, players are becoming increasingly frustrated by the restrictive nature of the 3-4 scheme.

The article then goes on to address Sutton's lack of creativity or attacking mentality:

The Jets, however, have only one sack and one turnover in three games.

Sutton said opponents have been negating his blitz schemes, in part, by throwing the ball quickly or protecting the quarterback. Screens have also been effective (as evidenced by the game against the Dolphins last week). Mangini added that "there's been consistency with our approach. It hasn't been 'We're only going to blitz (or) we're only going to cover.'"

Needless to say, there wasn't a whole lot of faith in the defense going into 2008. The Jets traded for Calvin Pace to play outside linebacker, giving Sutton another piece of the puzzle. They also went out and grabbed a real nose tackle in Kris Jenkins, who made the Pro Bowl alongside Revis that year. The run defense was top 10 with Jenkins in the middle, but (even with Pro Bowl Revis) the pass defense plummeted to 29th. The Jets missed the playoffs again, and they fired head coach Eric Mangini that year.

Rex Ryan was hired to take over the Jets, and appointed Mike Pettine as the defensive coordinator. Even after running the defense the year before, the Jets kept Sutton on as a linebackers coach and defensive assistant. Making some key additions to the front lines, the defense exploded, ranking first overall in points allowed, total defense, and pass defense, as well as eighth in rush defense. The defense played very well after moving away from a 2-gap defense and becoming 1-gap defenders on the front lines.

In the years to follow, there have been aspects of the game that the team has struggled with, but the defense has always been ranked a top 10 defense, as shown in the chart below:



For me, Sutton is a bit of an enigma. He's got experience in the Tampa 2 4-3, a 2-gap 3-4 similar to what the Chiefs are running now, and a 1-gap 3-4. The switch the the Jets made to the 3-4 wasn't initially successful under Sutton, but he also didn't really have the personnel to do it, which is the fault of both Mangini and Sutton. However, the pieces that had been acquired in those three years as defensive coordinator were set up perfectly for Rex Ryan to make an incredible attacking defense.

Throughout several transitions of defensive coordinators and head coaches, Sutton has been retained, which shows how well respected he is amongst NFL coaches. He hasn't really helmed a successful defense, but he's helped various players to some success. He hasn't really built a defense, but there's not a whole lot left to build on this Kansas City team.

He does run a 3-4, which I personally prefer to the 4-3, and he has seen the successes of Ryan's attacking 3-4. One would think that some of that has worked its way into his arsenal, and one would hope that his varied background could lead to some variants to maximize player potential. At the very least, I don't think he can "mess up the defense". Here's to hoping he can make it better.

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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs coaching staff rumors   Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:50 pm

Ya, I just got done reading that article. I can't help but think that both of these coordinator choices are less than inspirable choice to get things started here.
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