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PostSubject: Chiefs @ Bucs   Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:01 pm

Let the Brady Quinn era begin!

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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs @ Bucs   Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:17 pm

Feels like a new season..lol

Chiefs win 17-10...
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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs @ Bucs   Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:18 pm

KC better win this game.. Our defense shut down what I would call on the fringe of being one of the premier offenses in the entire league.

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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs @ Bucs   Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:14 pm

24-17 is my prediction..

Quinn 2 TDs 1 Int 280 yards

We lose this game and the season is a wrap.

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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs @ Bucs   Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:18 pm

I'm pretty surprised, and happy to see the poll results. Typically the other team wins the poll, but currently its 5-0 Chiefs. It will be really interesting if Quinn can throw 300+ continuously like Orton did last year, I just hope that Quinn can finish drives with TD's unlike Orton. He does have a better supporting cast than Orton had last year too. Also, his first game as a starter is against the Bucs who are currently #32 in passing defense then a bye week to follow to really work with the starters.

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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs @ Bucs   Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:36 am

Chiefs aren't 'totally' ruling Matt Cassel out for Chiefs-Bucs in Week 6
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By Joel Thorman on Oct 9, 9:01a

We won't have a firm grasp of Matt Cassel's status for the Kansas City Chiefs Week 6 game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers until later in the week but for now we can say that Cassel's status is definitely up in the air. A couple of KC Star reporters do not believe he'll play and Romeo Crennel on Monday didn't act as if it were a given that Cassel would be available against the Bucs.

"No, not totally," Crennel said when asked if they were ruling Cassel out for Week 6. "Just from what I've seen about concussions, they can be difficult. A lot of times, the individual is the thing. Some individuals recover faster than others. With the emphasis onconcussions in the league, they're making sure that we do due diligence on the player's health in making sure he's not rushed back. We'll evaluate it and see."

Cassel will need to be cleared by doctors to play. This isn't a "toughness" thing like the appendectomy. Hopefully, the Chiefs take this decision out of Cassel's hands.

That said, even if Cassel were healthy, it's still a legitimate question as to who would start this game.
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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs @ Bucs   Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:37 am

For Fuck Sake! So Crennell says that Cassell hasn't ruled out yet. I hope Quinn starts.
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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs @ Bucs   Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:31 am

I say Quinn starts and we win this game. But who know after the bye week. Cassel could be back then.
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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs @ Bucs   Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:37 am

If Quinn does well and and we win he would be crazy and like getting fired to put Cassel back in.
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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs @ Bucs   Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:12 am

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If Quinn does well and and we win he would be crazy and like getting fired to put Cassel back in.

Who? It is Piolis call when Cassel is healthy. Hopefully he understands it is time to move on.
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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs @ Bucs   Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:47 am

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chiefbravebull wrote:
If Quinn does well and and we win he would be crazy and like getting fired to put Cassel back in.

Who? It is Piolis call when Cassel is healthy. Hopefully he understands it is time to move on.

I agree if Quinn wins and looks productive. And Crennel or Pioli put Cassel back in after the bye. All 3 need to be gone.
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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs @ Bucs   Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:07 pm

My mind will be blown if Cassel starts.

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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs @ Bucs   Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:17 pm

I wouldn't worry about it..Its nothing but keeping the Bucs from forming a solid game plan...Sort of like when The Steelers kept Mendenhall's status up in the air...If Cassel starts this game, I change my pick because all we really need to do to win is play solid defense (which we have seen against the Ravens) and not turn the ball over (which Cassel has been doing much too often)...

If Quinn starts we win..If Cassel starts, we lose..That is my choice..
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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs @ Bucs   Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:01 pm

Matt Cassel injury update: KC Chiefs QB not cleared to practice
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By Joel Thorman on Oct 10, 9:21a

After suffering a concussion last Sunday against the Baltimore Ravens, Chiefs QB Matt Cassel has not been cleared by doctors to practice with the team.

As many expected, Matt Cassel will not practice for the Kansas City Chiefs on Wednesday. He suffered a concussion in last Sunday's loss to the Baltimore Ravens and Chiefs head coach Romeo Crennel was cautious when talking about his status in Monday's press conference. So that he's not practicing isn't a big surprise.

Matt Cassel was in building today for a short time, but Romeo Crennel says he wasn't sticking around. Has been told to rest.
— Dave Skretta (@APdaveskretta) October 10, 2012

Cassel will likely need to practice a little bit in order to have a shot to play. With the Chiefs bye coming up after this game, it makes sense that KC would rest him this week in order to give him two full weeks to recover.

Of course, the other issue at play here is whether Cassel would start the game even if he were healthy. He's had a miserable season to start and everyone outside of the organization seems to be calling for Brady Quinn.
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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs @ Bucs   Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:02 pm

Best mother fucking news I have heard all day! I'm so sick of seeing that shitbird Cassel!
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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs @ Bucs   Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:30 pm

If Cassel plays and sucks and someone is going to get blamed for it and fired who do you think that will be Crennel not Pioli. Face it Pioli will be going nowhere for a long time.
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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs @ Bucs   Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:48 pm

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By all rights, it shouldn’t be this way for Brady Quinn. He’s 27 and in his sixth NFL season, so as a former first-round draft pick he should not only have a team to call his own but be comfortably rooted as its starting quarterback.
It hasn’t worked that way for Quinn. But he will get a chance, perhaps a last chance, to resurrect his long-stalled career on Sunday when he will make his first start in almost three years, this one for the Chiefs against the Buccaneers in Tampa.
Quarterback Matt Cassel has not been medically cleared to participate and did not practice Wednesday. Coach Romeo Crennel didn’t rule Cassel out of Sunday’s game, but given that the NFL demands caution with players who have suffered a concussion, as Cassel did last week, that appears to be a formality.
So the Chiefs will go with Quinn, who played for a handful of snaps in relief of the injured Cassel toward the end of last week’s game against Baltimore.
“This is his opportunity to reclaim his career,” said Shawn Zobel, who runs a draft website at DraftHeadquarters.com. Zobel thought enough of Quinn when he came out of Notre Dame in 2007 that he could have been the overall No. 1 pick.
“He’s only 27. So he’s got that going for him. When you think about it from that perspective, he’s younger than (Cleveland rookie quarterback) Brandon Weeden.”
Cassel was at the practice facility Wednesday, but only briefly. He did not attend practice.
“He came into the building today,” Crennel said. “He was not here long. Concussions, they want you to rest, take your time with it.
“He’s been getting a series of tests as it relates to the concussion and he’s been seeing the doctors. I think he’s getting better but you know the league is very serious and cautious about concussions and how about how to handle them so we have to follow procedures on that as we go forward.”
So the Chiefs will go with Quinn on Sunday. While that prospect doesn’t sound exciting to at least some NFL teams — in the past three years, Quinn has been discarded by the Browns, couldn’t get off the bench for the Broncos and not good enough to replace a struggling Cassel for the Chiefs — at one time it would have been.
He was a first-round pick in 2007 of the Browns, then coached by Crennel. He spent two seasons with Cleveland under Crennel, making only three starts, and one year after Crennel was fired, making nine starts.
He was then traded to Denver, where he spent two years buried on the bench behind Kyle Orton and Tim Tebow. He joined the Chiefs as a free agent this year. That’s hardly the career predicted for Quinn when he left Notre Dame.
“I know when I went into Notre Dame, they’d had a couple .500 seasons, or right about that, and I know that we went to two BCS games in the first two years that I was at Notre Dame and one of the main reasons was Brady Quinn,” said Kansas’ Charlie Weis, Quinn’s coach at the end of his Irish career. “And when he left, I told the people, the fans and everyone that you’re really going to miss this kid when he’s gone. And we went 3-9 the next year. So there’s a lot to say for what that kid did for Notre Dame when I was there. We won a lot of football games and he carried the torch. He was clearly the leader.”
Sunday’s game gives Quinn a chance to reestablish his career. Cassel left the lineup because of injury, but was playing so poorly that the Chiefs couldn’t afford to yank Quinn if he plays well during his trial as the starter.
But Quinn wouldn’t acknowledge that on Wednesday.
“There is no bigger picture,” he said. “Tampa is a good team. We’ve got a big challenge ahead of us. There’s no need for me or anyone else to be looking further than this week or even tomorrow’s preparation.”
Yet Quinn also admitted his emotions stirred when he replaced Cassel last week, the first time he’s played in the regular season since December 2009. He said he expected them to do so on Sunday as well.
Since he was Cleveland’s coach when Quinn was drafted, it’s reasonable to believe the quarterback is a favorite of Crennel’s. He didn’t sound on Wednesday as if he had a lot of confidence in Quinn.
“I hope the fact that he understands the offense and understands the system (means) he will be able to step in and be productive,” Crennel said. “He’s got some height, he’s got experience, he can throw the ball down the field, he can throw it intermediate. He has a good command of the offense. He knows what’s expected. He knows the calls and can get us into plays, out of plays.
“Now he has to go execute.” (Unlike CAssel?)

Quinn didn’t play at all as a rookie and started only three games the next season. He lost the rest of that season with a finger injury.
“He was a good talent coming out,” Crennel said. “There’s no doubt about it. He was a productive quarterback and had command of the offense that he ran up at Notre Dame and the weapons he had with him.
“When he got to us, we didn’t have quite as many weapons as he had there at Notre Dame and he was learning a new system and so he wasn’t quite as effective as he had been at Notre Dame. Then he got hurt also. That impacted his development. That made it tough to make a solid evaluation of him.”
Quinn remained with the Browns for one more year after Crennel was fired. His coordinator that season was Brian Daboll, now with the Chiefs. Daboll was unavailable for comment Wednesday but Crennel said, remarkably, that he never asked Daboll what he thought of Quinn before the Chiefs signed him.
The Chiefs are hopeful the Browns were wrong on giving up on Quinn so quickly.
“He was only there for three years,” Zobel said. “To me, when a guy gets drafted in the first round and didn’t play a down his first year and starts only three games his second year and then nine the next year, there’s no way to make a good evaluation on him. It just wasn’t a good mix of talent there. That wasn’t a great situation there.
“He never got a fair shake with the Browns. It never got off on the right foot. That’s not how a team should allow a young guy to develop. You should put him out there and let him take his lumps and learn from them. He never had that opportunity.”

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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs @ Bucs   Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:48 pm

Im probably more excited for this game than I was the season opener.

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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs @ Bucs   Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:29 am

The Chiefs could be without their starting quarterback this weekend.

The Kansas City Chiefs initial injury report Tampa Bay Buccaneers week has 10 players listed, including Matt Cassel, who did not practice. Romeo Crennel talked about the injured guys earlier today but now the full injury report is out.

Did not practice: Matt Cassel, Glenn Dorsey, Peyton Hillis

This is what we expected. Cassel will need to be cleared by doctors. This is not his decision and it's not a "toughness" thing. But I wouldn't count on him playing. The Chiefs fared OK without Dorsey last weekend so his presence is perhaps not as important as I thought. Hillis has been out two straight games so we don't know where he stands.

Limited practice: Ryan Lilja, Jon Baldwin, Shaun Draughn

Nothing too concerning here. Lilja has been on the injury report for a few weeks now. Baldwin was on the injury report last week but played the most snaps of the season. Draughn is a new addition this week, getting his ankle rolled up last weekend.

Full practice: Jalil Brown, Kendrick Lewis, Ropati Pitoitua

Kendrick! The Chiefs safety hasn't played since injuring his shoulder in the preseason but this looks like the week if he's a full participant. Also big news it that Pitoitua, who missed last week's game, appears ready to return.

Could be worse on the injury front.
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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs @ Bucs   Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:31 am

Lewis being back full practice is a sight for sore eyes! Lewis and Ropati being back this weekend will be huge!
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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs @ Bucs   Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:48 am

Lewis being back will be awesome! We for sure win this game if Cassel is ruled out.

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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs @ Bucs   Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:00 pm

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Chiefs have finally ruled Cassel out of Sundays game
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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs @ Bucs   Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:05 pm

I was just gonna say, Brady Quinn has been officially been named starter for Sunday!

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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs @ Bucs   Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:28 pm

The Bucs weaknesses match up pretty well with Quinns strengths. I wonder if they will actually try to succeed with Quinn, or set him up to fail like they did with Croyle to protect their precious Cassel.
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PostSubject: Re: Chiefs @ Bucs   Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:24 am

I heard something interesting on the late night news..On KSHB 41 they said that Crennel thinks Quinn and Cassel have similar skillsets..which if thats the case we will be running the same bullshit weve been running. Slants..screens..and lots of run plays.

Knowing that Pioli has control of the lineups now..makes me wonder if he's gonna make Quinn fail on purpose just to get us back on Cassels side?

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