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PostSubject: 0-2 Chiefs @ 0-2 Saints    Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:05 pm

Adam Teicher ‏@adamteicher

Long list of Chiefs injuries today. Will detail shortly


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Crennel said Boss, O'Connell, Lilja, Wiley, Lewis, Breaston, Toribio, Bailey, Brown, McCluster either won't prac or will be limited today



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But he said Charles and Arenas are OK and will be full participants

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PostSubject: Re: 0-2 Chiefs @ 0-2 Saints    Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:08 pm

I wish Cassel was apart of that long list.

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PostSubject: Re: 0-2 Chiefs @ 0-2 Saints    Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:49 am

Me too. I would be fine with giving Quinn a chance. Maybe it will happen anyways because Cassel will suck that bad they have to bench him. I doubt it but, heres to hoping.
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PostSubject: Re: 0-2 Chiefs @ 0-2 Saints    Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:39 pm

The Saints havent been bad at all. Washington is a playoff contender with RGIII and Carolina is on the uprise..and they barely lost to both teams. Were gonna get spanked for sure. 35-10 is my prediction.

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PostSubject: Re: 0-2 Chiefs @ 0-2 Saints    Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:50 pm

You must be predicting the halftime score
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PostSubject: Re: 0-2 Chiefs @ 0-2 Saints    Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:31 pm

I dont see how we can win unless something drastic happens in the attitudes of these players.
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PostSubject: Re: 0-2 Chiefs @ 0-2 Saints    Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:54 pm

As we try to diagnose what is wrong with the 2012 Kansas City Chiefs, we may need to evaluate what the players and coaches are saying almost as much as we examine their performance on the field.
Some folks will tell you that words don’t matter. I don’t think that is necessarily true. We’ve seen recently, with the attacks on the American Embassy, that words can be enormously powerful. Words can inspire and incite greatness.
But words can also defeat. If you were to wake up every morning, look at yourself in the mirror and say “I hate myself, I am a worthless, worthless human being,” and you continued to run through that mantra over and over again in your head throughout the day, it would be pretty difficult to feel good about yourself. You might struggle in social situations. You would begin to lose your confidence.
Let’s not have any illusions about words; they can be difference-makers, but they aren’t the only factor in whether we succeed or fail. For instance, I can tell myself over and over again that I could play nose tackle for the Chiefs in the 3-4 defense but no matter how high my confidence, I’d still likely be killed on the very first snap if I ever stepped on the field at Arrowhead in a real game.
The situation with the Chiefs this season is curious. In 2009, we knew the team was full of bad football players. Same with 2008. It made sense that they were getting smacked around. We didn’t like it. We wanted to see guys develop faster, play better but we also weren’t ignorant to reality.
Football fans are pretty smart. We have a tendency to be be homers, for sure but we’re smart enough to know when a team is talented, when they are over-achieving and when they are under-achieving. Most KC fans I talked to last season expected the team to take a step back. Folks seemed to agree that the team had improved but still have a little ways to go. We didn’t foresee the injuries of course and when it was all said and done, I think a great deal of Chiefs fans were pleasantly surprised that the team managed to win seven games in a season in which Tyler Palko started four contests.
In 2012, however, we’re all scratching out heads. The talent is present on this team. That is plain to see. But the Chiefs aren’t harnessing their talent to help them win football games. They look lost, lethargic and apathetic. They’re out of sync.
The problem with the 2012 Kansas City Chiefs isn’t physical. It’s mental.
And you need only to listen to this group talk to understand.
“We’re trying to get it better and we will get it better. Coach Crennel is adamant about that. We’ve got to play at a high level. We’re NFL players that have to be on the same page. This game is hard. Offenses are very hard. But at some time we’ve got to put our foot down and we’ve got to stop them from scoring. We’re letting people score way too many points.”
-Derrick Johnson
Oh DJ. This game is hard? Offenses are very hard?
Does that sound like a leader to you? Does it sound like a man who is going to mentally be able to go out there and dominate? Frankly, he sounds scared. Johnson sounds like he is playing tight football and I think his on-field performance confirms that.
Can you imagine Ray Lewis of the Baltimore Ravens saying something like this after two humiliating losses?
“Effort is between you, and you, and nobody else. So that team that thinks it’s ready to see you, they think what they’ve seen on film, they ain’t saw what film shows, because every day is a new day. Every moment is a new moment. So now you’ve got to go out and show them that I’m a different creature now, then I was five minutes ago, cause I’m pissed off for greatness. Cause if you ain’t pissed off for greatness, that just means you’re okay with being mediocre, and ain’t no man in here okay with just basic.”
-Ray Lewis
Why isn’t Derrick Johnson “pissed off for greatness?” Why aren’t all the Chiefs pissed off?
They don’t sound like a group that believes in themselves. They don’t even sound like the believe in one another.
Yesterday, head coach Romeo Crennel was asked about rookie guard Jeff Allen. The starter, Ryan Lilja, is a little banged up and Crennel was asked he felt about the possibility of Allen having to start.
“Against this particular team, it’s probably not the best because of the varying pressures that they bring, but he’s a smart young man and has gotten good work yesterday and [will get] good work today and tomorrow, and we’ll have him prepared the best we can,” said Crennel.
I’m sorry? What?
Allen looked fairly decent in the preseason. Is this the way you get a rookie ready to potentially make the first start of his NFL career? You talk about how tough the opponent is and how you “prepare him the best we can?”
Jiminy Christmas!
If his own coach doesn’t sound like he believes in him, how is Allen supposed to go out there and believe he can hang tough?
Last night, the New York Giants started a guy named Andre Brown. Brown is a former fourth round pick and has been waived four times in his career. Stepping in for an injured starter, Brown delivered and played like a hidden star. In fact, the New York Giants have made a habit of having backups step up and play well. That is what good teams do. Their team motto is “next man up.”
Perhaps the worst offense, however, came a few days ago when Crennel was asked if Sunday’s game against the Saints was a “must win.”
“I would like to win, definitely,” said Crennel. “I don’t know if it’s a must-win. I know we will try to look at it as a must-win because we want to win it, but we’re not going to fall off the earth if we lose it. But I really don’t want to tell those guys that. I want them to feel the urgency that we need to get better and we need to start quickly getting better.”
Not a must win?
The correct answer to that question is that they are ALL must wins.
You have to wonder if the Chiefs’ lack of toughness and focus comes from what they are hearing from their head coach. Players tend to repeat what their coaches tell them. When Todd Haley was the head coach we often heard the players breaking their season into quarters like their head coach. Under Crennel, that talk is gone.
Crennel may be trying to keep his team from panicking by saying that Sunday’s game is not a must win. He may be afraid that if he lays into them or tries to light a fire under their collective asses that they will continue to “press” and make mistakes.
If you ask me, this team could do with a little motivation, even if that motivation is a little harsh.
Think about it. Who are the leaders of this Chiefs team? After a failed series, have you seen Matt Cassel pacing up and down the sideline, firing up his offensive teammates?
Have you seen Derrick Johnson or Eric Berry grab a defensive mate by the face mask, trying to pump him up?
I haven’t.
The Chiefs need a spark. They need leadership. They need to play with fire and passion.
Because right now, all of those things are missing. There are no apparent leaders. There is no apparent passion. Offenses are hard, after all.
Something has to change and change fast because right now the Chiefs look like losers.
They sound like them, too.
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PostSubject: Re: 0-2 Chiefs @ 0-2 Saints    Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:38 pm

Chiefs don't have a snowballs chance in hell to win this game. I look for them to be COMPLETELY embarrassed again this week.
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PostSubject: Re: 0-2 Chiefs @ 0-2 Saints    Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:43 pm

If they literally made Brees play with a blind fold on it would even things out a little.
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PostSubject: Re: 0-2 Chiefs @ 0-2 Saints    Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:40 pm

and tied his throwing arm to his left foot behind his back
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PostSubject: Re: 0-2 Chiefs @ 0-2 Saints    Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:41 pm

Jackson still wouldnt get a sack though
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PostSubject: Re: 0-2 Chiefs @ 0-2 Saints    Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:06 pm

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Jackson still wouldnt get a sack though

Yeah, probably because Hali would have already rolled Brees.

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PostSubject: Re: 0-2 Chiefs @ 0-2 Saints    Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:12 pm

Javier Arenas would create more push up front than Jackson
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PostSubject: Re: 0-2 Chiefs @ 0-2 Saints    Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:48 pm

Maybe you should talk to Crennel about switching to a 1 gap scheme instead of a 2 gap since the 2 gap doesn't ask your DL to penetrate.

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PostSubject: Re: 0-2 Chiefs @ 0-2 Saints    Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:58 pm

Somebody else agrees with me about staying the base 3-4.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2012/9/22/3372528/kansas-city-chiefs-front-seven-evaluation-week-2#storyjump
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PostSubject: Re: 0-2 Chiefs @ 0-2 Saints    Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:07 pm

[quote="RustShack"]Maybe you should talk to Crennel about switching to a 1 gap scheme instead of a 2 gap since the 2 gap doesn't ask your DL to penetrate. [/quote

I know Tysons job on passing plays is to stand there and do absolutely nothing. And he does do that better than any other Dlineman in the entire league.
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PostSubject: Re: 0-2 Chiefs @ 0-2 Saints    Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:28 pm

Wonder where KC ranks in team sacks? probably near the bottom. If Jackson isnt supposed to get the sacks he is supposed to help create them for the LBs. Either way you look at it he is a complete failure.
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PostSubject: Re: 0-2 Chiefs @ 0-2 Saints    Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:09 pm

After watching that 1st drive I agree Crennel is a great defensive mind. this Def looks better every single drive.
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PostSubject: Re: 0-2 Chiefs @ 0-2 Saints    Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:48 pm

Cassel should come out now. Mccluster has been one of our best weapons this yr. And Cassel just got him hurt with his off target passing. Not only is he hurting our team but also our players.
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PostSubject: Re: 0-2 Chiefs @ 0-2 Saints    Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:56 pm

This was a terrible win today. Yes I was wrong about the game, but 2-14 is better than 7-9. Now you get o say again after KC doesnt draft a QB that we didnt have a chance to get 1 because we drafted too far back
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PostSubject: Re: 0-2 Chiefs @ 0-2 Saints    Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:18 pm

Loved the win. Charles won this game. But Qb is still our glaring weakness. With a decent Qb Chiefs would have won big today. Instead of fighting it out in OT.
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PostSubject: Re: 0-2 Chiefs @ 0-2 Saints    Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:20 pm

Oh and our D finally showed up after the 1st half. Houston with a great game.
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PostSubject: Re: 0-2 Chiefs @ 0-2 Saints    Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:11 pm

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This was a terrible win today. Yes I was wrong about the game, but 2-14 is better than 7-9. Now you get o say again after KC doesnt draft a QB that we didnt have a chance to get 1 because we drafted too far back

In the words of Dominic Toretto, "I don't care if you win by an inch or if you win by a mile, winning is winning." Maybe this win will get them going.
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PostSubject: Re: 0-2 Chiefs @ 0-2 Saints    Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:14 pm

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Loved the win. Charles won this game. But Qb is still our glaring weakness. With a decent Qb Chiefs would have won big today. Instead of fighting it out in OT.

Charles had a hell of a game. He ran for 233 yards on 33 carries and a TD.
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PostSubject: Re: 0-2 Chiefs @ 0-2 Saints    Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:22 pm

We got beat up in this game even more. Hudson went down with a right knee injury. Hillis went out with a ankle injury. Albert went down with an injury. Same with McCluster and McCluster's injury is a nasty hyperextension. I hope he didn't tear his elbow. Fucking Cassell throwed him a shitty ball and he was wide open.


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