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PostSubject: How concerned are you?   Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:00 am

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Theres two ways you can take these last two losses.

You can be the type of person to say, "hey, its preseason"..or you can be the type of person to say, "hey, I think this team has some serious issues".

In game 1 we dominated the Cardinals. Got out to an early lead and never looked back. Played very well.

In game 2 we got behind early to the Rams who were held to 3 points the previous week. They put up 2 TDs early and we couldnt catch up. Defense was bad and offense struggled.

In game 3 tonight we were dominated all around. A 3rd round rookie played like a top 5 QB and shredded our defense with his arm and his legs. Our offense didnt produce at all.

So just how concerned are you guys?

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PostSubject: Re: How concerned are you?   Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:27 pm

I can agree with most if what your saying. I always agreed we need an upgrade at QB. But I still think we can win with Cassel. There is to much talent on this team. Now if we are under 500. After week four Cassel needs pulled. If not and he helps get us to the playoffs good. Anything less he needs replaced. If we are one and done because of him. He needs replaced. And I will happily eat crow.
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PostSubject: Re: How concerned are you?   Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:41 pm

I don't have a problem with Cassel focusing on short passes, thats how he was successful under Weis. When we are in real games throwing it deep to Bowe and Baldwin will happen more often then it does in Pre Season. Bowe obviously isn't ready yet, but when he is that will open the deeper game up between him and Baldwin.

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PostSubject: Re: How concerned are you?   Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:12 pm

Forget the thought that his team had a lot of depth and would be cutting good players. This team has no depth anywhere except RB.
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PostSubject: Re: How concerned are you?   Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:25 am

I like our depth at LB. DL is alright. Receiver as well..but the secondary depth is scary in a bad way..

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PostSubject: Re: How concerned are you?   Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:43 am

we dont have a LILB at all and nothing behin Hali or DJ. I dont even like our starters at Dline so I cant say we have depth there. They are supposed to be great at stopping the run yet they were 26th against it last year. WR is okay. Baldwin is still an unknown but has tremendous potential if Cassel will (can) throw him the damn ball. Obviously at QB we have a #2 in Quinn a #3 in Cassel and nothing else. We are going to need a 2 to 1 TOP ratio this year
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PostSubject: Re: How concerned are you?   Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:54 pm

Lol. I can't wait to see the turnaround by the end of the year. Preseason is real misleading...

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PostSubject: Re: How concerned are you?   Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:58 pm

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Lol. I can't wait to see the turnaround by the end of the year. Preseason is real misleading...

Funny to hear that since you had our Offense as unstoppable and our Defense stopping any offense in the NFL after week one preseason against Arizona
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PostSubject: Re: How concerned are you?   Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:05 pm

That's about how it will be if we play that style during the season, which we didn't much the rest of the pre season. I didn't watch last night, so I don't know what all went down then.

But of all the games I watched, the Cardinals game was the only one where we focused on the running and short passing game. Thats our regular season offense.

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PostSubject: Re: How concerned are you?   Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:08 pm

we wont dominate anybody offensively. we have to hope to control clock. when your QB cant hit any1 more than 10 yds down field it allows the rest of the D to play up. As good as our RBs are it is gonna be very easy fo teams to game plan against them with Cassel at QB. Zona may tie Detroits 0-16 season so taking anything away from that 1st preseason game and then throwing out the other 3 games is crazy.
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PostSubject: Re: How concerned are you?   Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:10 pm

We wont dominate anyone, but we will have a dominate running game. The passing game will be better because of that. They aren't stopping the run without stacking the box with 8 or 9 just like they had to do with LJ back in the day.

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PostSubject: Re: How concerned are you?   Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:13 pm

You can stack the box and still be fine with Cassel throwing the ball. He isnt going to hit anyone. Cassels deep ball doesnt even go past the box.
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PostSubject: Re: How concerned are you?   Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:16 pm

They should have a different chart for Cassel on TV when they show completions on short, middle and deep balls. 0-1 would be short passes. 2-4 would be mid-range passes. and 5-8 would be the deep balls.
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PostSubject: Re: How concerned are you?   Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:52 pm

As long as he plays like 10' we will be just fine. Except there will be a lot more than Bowe who can score and move the chains for him.

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PostSubject: Re: How concerned are you?   Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:56 pm

I think Moore would bring alot more to this offense under Daboll than Cassel would. Last year Moore more completed a higher % of passes than Cassel did in 2010, had more yards per attempt, and a higher TQBR. This is on a team thats passing attack heavily relied on one receiver in Brandon Marshall. I'd love to see what he could do with 4-5 legit weapons and our run game.

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PostSubject: Re: How concerned are you?   Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:32 pm

Daboll started off slow in Miami. It will click here with more talent and a better defense!
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PostSubject: Re: How concerned are you?   Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:41 am

Would love to see Moore in our offense as well. Daboll had him looking really decent last season. And we definately have more talent.
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PostSubject: Re: How concerned are you?   Sat Sep 01, 2012 10:54 am

Even if they were to bring Moore in it would be as the backup. No way he starts.
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PostSubject: Re: How concerned are you?   Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:05 am

Cassel has also never played all 16 games since coming to KC.

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PostSubject: Re: How concerned are you?   Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:30 am

Moore has a better arm than Cassel. I think Matt Moore kinda got the shaft in Miami.
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PostSubject: Re: How concerned are you?   Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:40 am

I think Garrard would have been better than Moore, but I'd take Moore over Tannehil. Maybe Phiblin is one of those coaches that can make any QB look good though, kinda like Josh McDaniels. So in that case, I could see just wanting "his" own QB he made.

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PostSubject: Re: How concerned are you?   Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:11 pm

Garrard is a solid QB when he's healthy..only problem is he's never healthy.

I'd give up a late round pick for Moore right now if I were KC. Not sure what Miami is gonna do with their QB situation. They might keep Moore around until Garrard gets completely cleared if he hasnt already.

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