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PostSubject: Offseason Workouts   Fri May 11, 2012 3:00 pm

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Martin Rucker among rookie camp participants

Former Missouri tight end Martin Rucker is among 10 players participating in the Chiefs' rookie camp on a trial basis. Rucker, who is from St. Joseph, has played with the Browns, Cowboys and Jaguars. He was drafted by Cleveland in 2008 when the Browns were coached by Romeo Crennel.

One other tryout player, linebacker Leon Williams, was drafted by the Browns in 2006, also when they were coached by Crennel.

Another player of note is quarterback David LeGree, who began his college career at Syracuse before transferring to Hampton. The Chiefs have only three quarterbacks under contract and would prefer to take four to training camp. LeGree could eventually be that quarterback.

Otherwise, the Chiefs are mostly taking a look at specialists. They will look at three deep snappers (Tom DeTemple of Cincinnati, James Winchester of Oklahoma and Clint Mower of Utah), a kicker (Jason Cunningham of Montana State) and a punter (Paul Hershey of Ohio).

The others are an offensive lineman (Jacob Phillips, who played in college at Belhaven in Mississippi) and a defensive back (Dominique Ellis of South Carolina State).

In all, the Chiefs will have 38 participants, including eight draft picks, 15 undrafted rookies under contract, the 10 tryout players and five of their younger veteran players: fullback Shane Bannon, running back Shaun Draughn, wide receiver Jamar Newsome and offensive linemen Ron Bruggeman and Luke Patterson.

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PostSubject: Re: Offseason Workouts   Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:47 pm

This definately can work to the Chiefs advantage. Plus Bowe will be around later and be fine.
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PostSubject: Re: Offseason Workouts   Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:48 pm

As long as Bowe is in there by training camp, he'll be fine. Its encouraging to see Baldwin making such a name for himself already, despite it only being OTAs. Stanzi better start over Cassels broke ass week 1. If he gets first team reps at training camp, were going to have a serious QB controversy.

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PostSubject: Re: Offseason Workouts   Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:12 pm

doubt it.

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PostSubject: Re: Offseason Workouts   Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:28 pm

Not going to happen. Cassel will definately start. Cassel is supposed to be looking better than ever as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Offseason Workouts   Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:52 am

Stanzi has been looking good, but so has Cassel. Croyle was also an OTA warrior.

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PostSubject: Re: Offseason Workouts   Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:18 pm

Cassel always looks improved during OTAs and Training camp..then we get to the games and its the same old chicken with his head cut off bullshit.

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PostSubject: Re: Offseason Workouts   Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:18 pm

Actually from what I remember Cassel has always sucked it up in OTAs. But your right anyway, until he shows it on the field with consistency we won't know. That's what gets me the man shows flashes of being very good at times and sometimes I am like WTF lol. That's why I haven't lost complete hope for him. IF he can just stay consistent. But this will be the year make or break.
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PostSubject: Re: Offseason Workouts   Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:06 pm

It will be interesting to see how Daboll uses him. More like Weis and less like Haley and we are winning despite his suck.

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PostSubject: Re: Offseason Workouts   Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:20 am


Matt Cassel is a winner, according to new Chiefs OC

Matt Cassel has had an up-and-down three-season run with the Kansas City Chiefs, but new offensive coordinator Brian Daboll believes he inherited a winner at the quarterback position.

Cassel led the New England Patriots to an 11-5 record after Tom Brady wrecked his knee in Week 1 of the 2008 season. He later piloted the Chiefs to a 10-6 mark and an AFC West title in 2010. Cassel has never won a playoff game -- in fact, he played terribly against the Ravens in his only postseason start -- but Daboll sees a player who knows how to lead his team.

"He's been a winner," Daboll told reporters Thursday, according to ESPN.com. "He's had two 10-plus win seasons. I did a study just this offseason about 10-plus-win quarterbacks, which is what you're defined by, obviously. There's been nine of them in the last four years that have had two or more 10-plus win seasons in the regular season, and Matt is one of them.

"The other ones being Brady, (Drew) Brees, (Aaron) Rodgers, Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Eli (Manning), (Joe) Flacco, (Matt) Ryan, so he's been a winner. He works his tail off in the classroom. I think he's done a good job in these OTAs, and I'm looking forward to working with him."

Daboll finds a creative way to lump Cassel in with a group of the game's best quarterbacks, but he does leave out the big picture. Despite those 10-plus win seasons, Cassel is a pedestrian 28-26 in games he's started overall.

If you really are defined by your record, this seems about right.
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PostSubject: Re: Offseason Workouts   Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:22 am

Why in the hell do people keep calling this chump Cassel ELITE? Is Daboll high? He is at the very best an average QB with above average skills once in a great while.
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PostSubject: Re: Offseason Workouts   Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:19 am

Cassel does well every other year. Hopefully he does well enough to win the Super Bowl this year.

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PostSubject: Re: Offseason Workouts   Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:04 pm

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#Chiefs OTAs Dontari Poe looked good again today. He isn't guessing that much. He has improved. Ready to see him in full pads.
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#Chiefs OTAs Anthony Toribio looked good in drills today. He had some good power and technique.
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#Chiefs OTAs Ropati Pitoitua back in drills today. Great size and and long arms. He had good pop and kept blockers at bay.
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#Chiefs OTAs Stanzi had a nice audible and threw a strike to Brandon Kinnie for a TD in redzone.
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PostSubject: Re: Offseason Workouts   Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:58 am

Dontari Poe Earning High Marks for Kansas City Chiefs For Work Ethic, Study Habits

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Dontari Poe has a lot of work in front of him in the transition from the college ranks at Memphis to the pro level. As an interior defender, technique is everything and Poe will have to work hard every day to slowly learn the playbook, the schemes, how to work best with teammates and his opponents’ tendencies, among other things. But the Chiefs knew they would have an uphill climb with Poe when they drafted him. The reward, they believed, was worth the risk.

Poe was the No. 11 choice in the 2012 NFL Draft and he is a potential steal on paper. He outweighed most of his competition at defensive tackle in the draft by nearly 50 pounds and flashed agility and athleticism that few of them had as well. With three-down lineman potential, Poe was simply too good to pass up.

The good news is that Poe is earning high marks from his defensive line coach for his work ethic and willingness to dig into his studies. Anthony Pleasant seems quite pleased with his prodigy so far.

"It’s good to have a guy of that magnitude and size, you just have to work hard—which he has been doing," said Pleasant. "Coming from college to the pros is a big transition for him, so he’s learning how to play the technique. He is a unique type of player he just has to continue to work hard and push himself. Personally, I just emphasize him watching film, saying this is how you need to play and this is your technique."

If Poe can get the mental side of the game to the point where it’s automatic, then the Chiefs could have a game-changing talent on their hands on the inside. Haloti Ngata and Casey Hampton are similar players who free up the linebackers and ends around them to make plays as the pocket collapses or runners bounce to the outside. Poe has the potential to do the same.

Poe definitely has a long way to go, but so far, so good. Year one might not be a banner year by any means but even a year in which Poe shows he belongs will point to long-term dividends for the Chiefs in years to come.
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PostSubject: Re: Offseason Workouts   Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:16 pm

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Why in the hell do people keep calling this chump Cassel ELITE? Is Daboll high? He is at the very best an average QB with above average skills once in a great while.

Yeah have to agree mostly. I always defend Cassel, but have never called him elite. I think he has potential with all the weapons around him. But never elite. But hopefully Daboll can bring more out of him.
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PostSubject: Re: Offseason Workouts   Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:23 pm

Poe is just too impressive. You don't hear about NT's working that hard. That type of work ethic and talent is how HOF'ers are made.

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PostSubject: Re: Offseason Workouts   Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:47 pm

As long as he can put it all together come game time. You may be right Rust.
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PostSubject: Re: Offseason Workouts   Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:12 pm

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As long as he can put it all together come game time. You may be right Rust.

I hope so too! My expectations aren't really that high for him this year.
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PostSubject: Re: Offseason Workouts   Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:24 am

Anthony Pleasant brings player perspective to Dontari Poe's development
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Chiefs defensive line coach Anthony Pleasant spent a portion of his playing days in Romeo Crennel's 3-4 defense

Anthony Pleasant should know exactly what Dontari Poe is going through. At various stops during his 13-year NFL career, Pleasant had to learn the exact techniques Poe is now learning at OTAs.

Pleasant, the current Chiefs defensive line coach, played under Romeo Crennel twice--once as a member of the New York Jets, and again as a member of the New England Patriots. He thrived in New England, rushing the passer as a defensive end as stopping the run as a defensive tackle during two Super Bowl-winning seasons.

Crennel and the Chiefs had similar expectations in mind when they made Poe the eleventh overall pick of the 2012 NFL Draft. And in order to groom their prized prospect, the Chiefs are relying on Pleasant to impart the knowledge he gained playing for Crennel on Poe.

Poe played nearly every position on the defensive line at Memphis, and draft experts said he could excel as one of two defensive tackles in a 4-3 system or as the sole tackle in a 3-4 alignment.

Poe will be expected to act as the latter in Crennel’s 3-4 system and line up as the nose tackle. The rookie has played in some sub-package alignments during OTAs tailored for passing situations, but in a 3-4 configuration, outside linebackers usually amass sacks—called the “glory stat” by Pleasant.

Poe said he’s been using OTAs to begin to tailor his game to an unfamiliar style of defense.

“It’s a different technique,” Poe said. “But once you learn it, you can be dominant with it. They’ve been playing (the 3-4) way longer than I have, so anything I can get from my teammates is the best thing for me.”

Pleasant’s advice to Poe comes from first-hand knowledge he gained during his own playing career. In 1990, Pleasant was drafted by the Browns to be a pass-rush specialist at defensive end. However, when Bill Belichick was hired as Cleveland’s head coach in 1991, Pleasant has to adjust to his new role outside the spotlight.

“That was something totally new to me,” said Pleasant of his transition to a “two-gap” defensive lineman. “But I was willing to make that transition because I was determined to make it.”

So far, Pleasant likes what he sees from his new star pupil. Without pads and contact, determining how far along Poe actually is can be difficult. But Poe has shown flashes of disruptive run-stopping ability—as evidenced by a two-play stretch from one of last week’s OTA sessions.

The first play exhibited Poe’s block-shedding ability. Lined up with the first team players, he shot between left guard Ryan Lilja and center Rodney Hudson to force running back Peyton Hillis to bounce outside.

On the next snap, Poe was one of the players that met Hillis on the edge after another running play. He correctly diagnosed the play as an outside zone run, shuffled down the defensive line, and was the first player to meet Hillis in the hole he was supposed to run through.

Pads or no pads, Pleasant was impressed.

“He’s a unique type of player,” said Pleasant about Poe after Friday’s OTAs. “It’s good to have a guy of that magnitude and size. He just has to continue to work hard and push himself.”

The Chiefs could need Poe to keep pushing himself in order for the defense to reach its full potential. He could be the missing link in the middle for a squad that looks great on paper.

Safeties Eric Berry and Kendrick Lewis return in the secondary, Pro Bowlers Tamba Hali and Derrick Johnson comprise a promising linebacking corps, and Glenn Dorsey and Tyson Jackson are building their reputations as two of the league’s better run-stopping 3-4 defensive ends.

If Poe can learn from Pleasant and be a disruptive force in the middle of that talented group, the Chiefs defense could be equally unruly in 2012.

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PostSubject: Re: Offseason Workouts   Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:05 am

Damn it! I can't wait for training camp to begin.
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PostSubject: Re: Offseason Workouts   Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:09 pm

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Damn it! I can't wait for training camp to begin.

Lol any news from todays camp? I have been looking but no word yet. Hate being a Ohio Chief fan. Never Chief news around here lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Offseason Workouts   Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:30 pm

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#Chiefs MC Brandon Siler started individual drills today according to Romeo.
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PostSubject: Re: Offseason Workouts   Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:31 pm

Poe is working his ass off! Even staying late after practices to work more on his technique. Mother fucker doesn't even have a contract yet either! Most guys wouldn't show up without a contract.

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PostSubject: Re: Offseason Workouts   Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:00 pm

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@blackNOTmixed If Siler can stay healthy he is the ILB next to DJ. Big/physical thumper. Good athleticism.
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@blackNOTmixed Siler had to be 100% for them to allow him back on the field. He looked good. I know he was excited to get back out there.
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@FritzHrdlicka3 Cassel is your starter. Stanzi is definitely pushing for backup though.
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@RJonesing Flowers and DB's couldn't jam because of the no contact.
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#Chiefs MC A note, the cornerbacks were not jamming against the WRs. So the WR had good cushions to start off.
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#Chiefs MC Jerrell Powe seems to be late getting his hands up and into the defender.
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#Chiefs MC Stanzi had a nice ball to Steve Maneri on an intermediate route over the middle.
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PostSubject: Re: Offseason Workouts   Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:49 pm

Poe maybe had play of day on sweet move and push at LOS to get would b sack #chiefs

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PostSubject: Re: Offseason Workouts   Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:51 pm

Chiefs' Dontari Poe Working Out Despite No Contract
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The Kansas City Chiefs have had their first round pick Dontari Poe in mandatory minicamp this week, as well as the rest of the offseason before this week. That's notable because Poe has yet to sign his rookie contract. In past years rookies wouldn't work out until they had their rookie deal done but Poe's contract isn't a concern with the NFL's rookie wage scale.

Poe said there was "no doubt" he was going to be at the Chiefs offseason program, regardless of his contract.

"I'm here to play football, so I'm doing that side of it," Poe said, via comments sent out by the Chiefs. "I leave that up to pretty much the other people to do that, so I'm just doing what I'm here to do."

So what does Poe working out without a contract say about him?

"It says he wants to make the team," Chiefs coach Romeo Crennel said. "That's what that says."

Pretty sure he's gonna make the team but Crennel didn't sound concerned at all about Poe's contract.

"They will get it done eventually because of the new structure in camp and things like that, but I think that he wants to learn the system and show what his abilities are so that when he does get assigned he can fall right into place."
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