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PostSubject: Truth starts leaking   Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:04 pm

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Todd Haley was never 100-percent on Tyson Jackson pick. He wanted best player available, not a system D-end. & he wasn't good at hiding it.


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On the Matt Cassel issues, Weis didn't think he could cut it. He argued with Haley over Cassel's development.

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PostSubject: Re: Truth starts leaking   Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:04 pm

Charlie Weis hire was second crack. It's a miracle Weis & Todd Haley didn't kill each other. Repeatedly sparred on Matt Cassel's development

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PostSubject: Re: Truth starts leaking   Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:07 pm

After arguing with Haley, Weis washed his hands of Cassel's development in early in 2010 & Haley took over those duties.

Then when Cassel started making strides in 2010, and Weis was getting credit for it in the media, it drove Haley nuts. And Weis had to go.

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PostSubject: Re: Truth starts leaking   Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:10 pm

Bottom line, both Haley and Pioli have tremendous egos. They were going to end up resenting each other and struggling over credit/blame.

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PostSubject: Re: Truth starts leaking   Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:12 pm

Don't mean for any of these tweets to be one-sided. Todd Haley was not doing a good job at the end. He was not handling players well at all.

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PostSubject: Re: Truth starts leaking   Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:15 pm

All those were from that same dude.

Lombardi claiming Haley didn't buy into the "Patriot Way."

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PostSubject: Re: Truth starts leaking   Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:43 pm

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The loudest person in the room is always the weakest!

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PostSubject: Re: Truth starts leaking   Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:11 am

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Todd Haley was never 100-percent on Tyson Jackson pick. He wanted best player available, not a system D-end. & he wasn't good at hiding it.


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On the Matt Cassel issues, Weis didn't think he could cut it. He argued with Haley over Cassel's development.

Thats a credit to Haley! I wonder who he considered best player available? Crabtree, Sanchez, Curry, Raji, Orakpo, Monroe.
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PostSubject: Re: Truth starts leaking   Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:16 am

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After arguing with Haley, Weis washed his hands of Cassel's development in early in 2010 & Haley took over those duties.

Then when Cassel started making strides in 2010, and Weis was getting credit for it in the media, it drove Haley nuts. And Weis had to go.

I figured Cassell was shoved down Haleys throat by Pioli.
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PostSubject: Re: Truth starts leaking   Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:16 am

Just as everyones been saying..Pioli and Cassel cost Todd Haley his job. Honestly I dont even know if Todd wanted to be here anymore. He just didnt seem to have that fire this year that hes had in years past. Kind of surprised that Weis actually gave up on Cassel like that..that has to say something about how shitty Cassel really is when Charlie fucking Weis gives up on you.

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PostSubject: Re: Truth starts leaking   Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:42 pm

Weis wanted Clausen or at least Quinn. Kinda the same situation Pioli is with Cassel, but shit I'd rather have either of Weis' options.

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PostSubject: Re: Truth starts leaking   Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:08 pm

Haley firing almost feels like a scape goat. Why is this all his fault. With all the players we lost and no adequate replacements should all fall on Pioli, not Haley. He can only coach what he has on the roster.
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PostSubject: Re: Truth starts leaking   Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:09 pm

Then again he has made some head scratching decisions himself like letting Palko on the field after his awful first game. Orton or Stanzi either one couldn't have been worse.
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PostSubject: Re: Truth starts leaking   Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:46 pm

I think Haley seen the writing on the wall and stopped caring after Cassel got hurt.

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PostSubject: Re: Truth starts leaking   Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:46 pm

Maybe even before that.

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PostSubject: Re: Truth starts leaking   Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:23 pm

I think Haley deserved to lose his job. He is supposedly an offensive "genius"?? Our offense can barely get first downs.. With all the talent on this offense I would think that he could come up with SOMETHING. He should have been gone after the Detroit game.

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PostSubject: Re: Truth starts leaking   Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:14 pm

I didnt shock me when I heard about it. Haley just didnt get the job done. Plain and simple.
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PostSubject: Re: Truth starts leaking   Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:50 pm

I think Haley just flat out didn't care this year and knew he was out the door. No reason to keep playing Palko. There were third and longs last week where we didn't have a single playmaker on the field... we had everyone but Bowe, Baldwin, Breaston, and McCluster for some snaps.... and there is no reason for there to not be at least one if not two of them on the field ever... especially in that situation.

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PostSubject: Re: Truth starts leaking   Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:27 pm

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I think Haley just flat out didn't care this year and knew he was out the door. No reason to keep playing Palko. There were third and longs last week where we didn't have a single playmaker on the field... we had everyone but Bowe, Baldwin, Breaston, and McCluster for some snaps.... and there is no reason for there to not be at least one if not two of them on the field ever... especially in that situation.

Maybe Haley decided to purposely throw the rest of the season for the draft and it pissed off Pioli
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PostSubject: Re: Truth starts leaking   Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:36 pm

I think Haley knew his game against the Jets was his last game. Did you see the players on the field? Urban? Copper? Over Bowe and Baldwin? Seriously? I read somewhere Pioli considered firing him after our playoff loss to Baltimore. Maybe thats why he handled everything the way he did with the offseason and all of that this year. He knew it was coming..he gave up from the start.

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PostSubject: Re: Truth starts leaking   Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:36 am

If Haley thought he might get fired and actually reacted in that way, that is a fuckin shame man. You would think that as a man you would want to step it up. Good bye Haley.
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PostSubject: Re: Truth starts leaking   Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:27 am

Todd Haley's Paycheck From The Chiefs Comes Into Question

And we thought this was all over.

Apparently not.

Mike Jurecki of XTRA 910 Sports in Phoenix is reporting that he is "[h]earing" that the Chiefs are "refusing" to pay Todd Haley the remainder of his contract, which suggests that Haley was fired for cause. As in did something detrimental to the team.

And, before anyone asks, playing Tyler Palko isn't a reason to fire him, especially when GM Scott Pioli already said, "That was not an issue at all." (I'm not sure the people saying playing Palko is a reason to be fired with cause are actually serious or not...I'm assuming not.)

These are issues usually resolved between the coach, team and the league so the process will move somewhere in that direction if it is indeed accurate.

It used to be the Raiders were the only team who had stories like this written about them, the alleged (and denied) phone bugging and the firing of a coach with cause.

Uh-oh: Are the Chiefs becoming the Raiders?

(Edit: They're actually like seven straight four-win seasons from being the Raiders.)


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Are the Kansas City Chiefs taking a page out of the Oakland Raiders’ playbook when it comes to former coach Todd Haley?

They might very well be, according to a tweet from Arizona radio reporter Mike Jurecki. He tweets that he is hearing the Chiefs are refusing to pay the final year of Haley’s contract for cause. This has not been confirmed. If that is the case, it means the Chiefs are saying they fired Haley for a specific reason that was problematic to the team, and that they don’t feel like they should have to abide by the contract. Former Oakland owner Al Davis had similar interactions with some coaches he fired.

Haley was fired last month. If the Chiefs are refusing to pay the final year of Haley’s contract for cause, Haley and the Chiefs will likely engage in a grievance. This month, the Kansas City Star ran a story saying Haley thought the Chiefs tampered with a personal cell phone.

Whether the Chiefs are trying get out of paying Haley or not, there is no doubt there were serious issues between Haley and the Chiefs.


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PostSubject: Re: Truth starts leaking   Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:28 am

I sure would like to know what the hell happened. This is not good for attracting coaches or FAs.
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