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PostSubject: Todd Haley Fired As Kansas City Chiefs Head Coach    Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:40 pm

Todd Haley Fired As Kansas City Chiefs Head Coach

by Joel Thorman on Dec 12, 2011 10:25 AM CST


I had a feeling that the loss to the New York Jets was a little different for the Kansas City Chiefs. It felt like one of those losses that could have consequences.

And we were right -- the Chiefs just fired head coach Todd Haley.

The Chiefs website announced it, so this is official. Haley is no longer the head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs.

Clark Hunt:


"This was a difficult decision but one that we feel is best for the future of the Chiefs," Chairman and CEO Clark Hunt said. "Although there have been bright spots at different points this season, we have not made meaningful progress and we felt that it was necessary to make a change. We appreciate Todd's contributions during his time with the club, and we wish him well in the future."

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"Todd helped this team in many valuable ways over the past three seasons, and I am thankful for his contributions," Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli said. "Unfortunately, we have not been able to establish the kind of consistency we need to continue to build a strong foundation for the future and we believe a change is important at this time."

Much, much more to come.
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PostSubject: Re: Todd Haley Fired As Kansas City Chiefs Head Coach    Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:41 pm

Fuck You Pioli and Hunt! Let the rebuilding begin.
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PostSubject: Re: Todd Haley Fired As Kansas City Chiefs Head Coach    Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:56 pm

ESPN.com's Bill Williamson

"The team did not name an interim coach in their statement announcing the move, however a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter that the Chiefs have told members of their organization that defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel will replace Haley on an interim basis."


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PostSubject: Re: Todd Haley Fired As Kansas City Chiefs Head Coach    Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:58 pm

I wonder if they will keep Crennell the HC and bring in a OC like McDouche?
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PostSubject: Re: Todd Haley Fired As Kansas City Chiefs Head Coach    Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:32 pm

Chiefs had approached Romeo Crennel in the past about becoming interim coach and he had been reluctant, now he takes over.

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PostSubject: Re: Todd Haley Fired As Kansas City Chiefs Head Coach    Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:56 pm

I've heard Kirk Frentz is the leading candidate to be our new HC...

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PostSubject: Re: Todd Haley Fired As Kansas City Chiefs Head Coach    Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:58 pm

The Kansas City Chiefs have fired Todd Haley. The Kansas City Chiefs GM is Scott Pioli. Scott Pioli and Kirk Ferentz have a relationship that goes back decades.

It stands to reason that some people are going to throw Ferentz's name at the top of the list for Pioli's Kansas City Chiefs.

Don't sweat it.

First, background on their relationship; read this item from Scott Dochterman from back in August on Pioli's relationship with Ferentz. Dochterman was down in St. Joseph, Missouri covering the Chiefs training camp, as KC has former Hawkeyes Tony Moeaki and Ricky Stanzi on the team.

I suspect Pioli will most definitely contact Ferentz's agent. Ferentz's agent receives a lot of inquiries. His agent may pass that stuff on to Ferentz, or Ferentz may have give the agent a list of people from whom he will take calls from as to set up a wall of deniability.

Meaning that when a media member asks 'have you talked to anyone from XYZ?' Ferentz can honestly say 'No, I have not.'

If Ferentz is asked if his agent has spoken to anyone on his behalf, or fielded calls, Kirk can honestly say that he doesn't know all of the people his agent talks with, and that his agent also represents other clients and talks to a lot of people.

Stuff like that.

Or, Ferentz could have just informed his agent that he is not interested in talking to anyone about anything as he intends to remain at Iowa until he retires.

My guess is most people would not throw up that sort of wall; I think you always have to evaluate choices in life, even if you are perfectly content. There may be times in your life when you throw up that sort of 'not interested' wall, but I don't think that successful people have it up for very long, if at all.

I have no idea where Kirk is at in all of this but I do know one thing for certain and that is he cannot coach his son James for his senior year at Iowa anywhere but at Iowa.

I also know that no amount of money in the world can buy that sort of experience, that extra 18 months.

Kirk Ferentz has made a great deal of money being the head coach of the Iowa Hawkeyes. The kind of money that would take lifetimes to spend unless you are Charlie Sheen or Bernie Madoff. However, Ferentz doesn't strike me as the frivolous kind of guy.

There are serious demands on your time when you are a head football coach in the Big Ten. There is a price you pay as it relates to family time. I think Ferentz has done the best job he can at spending as much time with his family as possible, but I would guess any coach, when it's all said and done, may have that as one of their few regrets; wishing they had more time to spend with their families.

The fact that Kirk was able to coach his son Brian for five years, I suspect those were some of the most important times in each of their lives. I suspect the same could be said for the time Kirk has been able to spend with James at Iowa these last three and a half years and there is still 18 months to go before James' eligibility is expired.

You cannot buy that sort of thing. You cannot purchase that sort of time.

Kirk's youngest son Steven is a senior at City High in Iowa City. I don't know what his college plans are, but after this spring the Ferentz's won't have any more children in high school and all of their children will have graduated from City High.

Get ready for the ESPN's of the world to throw Ferentz's name around for the KC job. It's going to happen and it's already begun.

However, I just don't see it happening and I don't see Kirk giving up the next 18 months with his son at Iowa. I just happen to believe that the University of Iowa is where Kirk is going to retire from and am not going to get too worked up over the Kansas City Chiefs head coaching vacancy, despite the ties Ferentz has with Pioli.

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PostSubject: Re: Todd Haley Fired As Kansas City Chiefs Head Coach    Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:36 pm

Haley saw ax coming, had talked of resigning last week


By KENT BABB

As the losses and conflict mounted, Todd Haley saw this day coming — one way or another.

Haley, fired today as coach of the Chiefs after fewer than three seasons, began seeing signs — and perhaps flouting them — that he was an awkward fit in an organization that leans on image as much as quality football.

As recently as last week, Haley indicated during a private conversation that he might resign as Chiefs coach, to leave on his own terms and retain the ability to tell his side of a story that became more chaotic as the season advanced. Most NFL separation agreements include a confidentiality clause, preventing the former employee from speaking publicly about his experience with the organization once the two part ways.

Haley and general manager Scott Pioli were at odds throughout the season, and it became clear even before the Chiefs began what has become a year of injuries, bad decisions and losing that a change was likely. Eight losses already this season, five of them in blowout fashion, made that a virtual certainty.

The Chiefs lost Sunday night, 37-10, to the New York Jets.

Haley said afterward that the Jets had been better prepared than the Chiefs and that his team had played its worst half — the Chiefs had one first down and four total yards in the first half — of the season.

That loss seemed to be the final push to part ways with a coach that never seemed to fit with the Chiefs’ buttoned-down philosophy. Haley was gruff and occasionally harsh to players, and he began distancing himself this season from the organization's clean-cut approach. He began growing a thick beard after the Chiefs’ third contest, an encouraging loss at San Diego, and wore well-used clothing to games and news conferences.

The Chiefs won four in a row after that game, but after that winning streak, losses to Miami and Denver began another losing streak punctuated too often by lopsided scores. Haley continued a rogue philosophy, ignoring custom and popular opinion – such as giving rookie quarterback Ricky Stanzi a try, rather than sticking with the struggling Tyler Palko — to keep doing things his way, whether that would derail his career or not.

Now that it's official, this ending seemed inevitable.
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PostSubject: Re: Todd Haley Fired As Kansas City Chiefs Head Coach    Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:38 pm

Kirk Ferentz could be good for Stanzi. But Idk know who I prefer at this point.
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PostSubject: Re: Todd Haley Fired As Kansas City Chiefs Head Coach    Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:30 am

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Kirk Ferentz could be good for Stanzi. But Idk know who I prefer at this point.

I hear Ferentz is happy right where he is at and wants to retire there. Nobody has lured him out from there yet and several have tried. His son effects his decision to.
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PostSubject: Re: Todd Haley Fired As Kansas City Chiefs Head Coach    Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:48 am

Who is affected by Haley firing?

December, 12, 2011
By Bill Williamson

Whenever a coaching change is made, it puts the future of some players in question. That is the case in Kansas City when the Chiefs fired Todd Haley on Monday. Let’s look at some players on the Chiefs’ roster who could be affected by the change:

Dwayne Bowe, receiver: He is a free agent at the end of the season. Bowe had his moments with Haley and was in the coach’s doghouse for a while. But Bowe responded and played well under Haley. The question is whether or not Bowe will be moved by Kansas City general manager Scott Pioli, and I don’t think the coaching change will play a big role.

Matt Cassel, quarterback: Cassel is tied more to Pioli than Haley. Cassel and Haley clashed at times, but Haley made some strides under Haley. I think Pioli is still behind him. I think the only way Cassel could be in trouble is if a strong coach is brought in and he dislikes Cassel enough to convince Pioli to make a change. If Josh McDaniels is the hire, Cassel is in great shape. The two had great success in New England and the entire Jay Cutler fiasco started because McDaniels wanted to continue to work with Cassel.

Kyle Orton, quarterback: He is a free agent at the end of the season. If McDaniels is brought in, I think he’d prefer Cassel over Orton. Remember, McDaniels drafted Tim Tebow in the first round after one year of working with Orton.

Ricky Stanzi, quarterback: He could be golden if his coach at Iowa, Kirk Ferentz, ends up in Kansas City. Otherwise, I don’t think Stanzi is affected by the hire.

Meanwhile, in Haley-firing related news:

The Kansas City Star reports Haley considered resigning as the Chiefs’ head coach last week. Haley made the right decision. I don’t think anyone would ever want to hire someone who quit on his team.

Another name to consider to replace Haley is new Miami interim coach Todd Bowles. He has Bill Parcells ties and that is important to Pioli. He is the son-in-law of Parcells. Haley was also a Parcells protégé.
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PostSubject: Re: Todd Haley Fired As Kansas City Chiefs Head Coach    Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:49 am

Williamson reports there is a rumor that Haley will be offered the HC spot at Arizona State.
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PostSubject: Re: Todd Haley Fired As Kansas City Chiefs Head Coach    Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:22 am

As long as McDaniels isnt brought in as the Head Coach...I'll be somewhat content. I'd take McDaniels anyday as an OC..but never ever a HC..

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