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PostSubject: Deal could get done   Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:46 pm

Per Adam Scheffter (sp?)
There has a been "slight" progress in the what was formally known as "secret" negotiations. Adam says there is a "soft" deadline of 7/15 to get a deal done that would preserve the entire preseason. He says some teams want to play the entire preseaon to get the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
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PostSubject: Re: Deal could get done   Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:39 pm

I just have a feeling that theyre closer to a deal than anybody thinks..A deals gonna get done. We may lose 1 preseason game at most..but I heard losing the preseason alone would cost the league millions and millions of dollars.

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PostSubject: Re: Deal could get done   Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:18 pm

Oh yeah a deal will get done. There is no way anyone lets the NFL miss any games.

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PostSubject: Re: Deal could get done   Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:23 pm

http://www.eagletribune.com/breaking...ockout-is-over


June 9, 2011
SOURCE: NFL lockout almost over
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The National Football League's lockout is over.

According to an NFL source, owners and players have tentatively reached an agreement to end the lockout, which entered its 86th day today.

Some coaches and players have been contacted about returning to work probably early next week and as soon as this weekend.

The two sides were meeting secretly in Manhattan the last three days. Included in those meetings were Patriots owner Robert Kraft, Commissioner Roger Goodell, Judge Arthur Boylan and NFLPA chief DeMaurice Smith.

The group reportedly met last week in Chicago.

This means that the season is expected to begin, as scheduled on Thursday, Sept. 8, when the New Orleans Saints play at Green Bay.

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PostSubject: Re: Deal could get done   Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:20 pm

I bet this guy's a premature ejaculator too.
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PostSubject: Re: Deal could get done   Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:23 pm

I highly doubt some reporter wannabe from North Andover, Massachusetts is the only person to break this story.
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PostSubject: Re: Deal could get done   Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:28 am

FatThucker wrote:
I bet this guy's a premature ejaculator too.

You been spying on me you sick pervert!
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PostSubject: Re: Deal could get done   Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:30 am

RustShack wrote:
http://www.eagletribune.com/breaking...ockout-is-over


June 9, 2011
SOURCE: NFL lockout almost over
Bill Burt
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The National Football League's lockout is over.

According to an NFL source, owners and players have tentatively reached an agreement to end the lockout, which entered its 86th day today.

Some coaches and players have been contacted about returning to work probably early next week and as soon as this weekend.

The two sides were meeting secretly in Manhattan the last three days. Included in those meetings were Patriots owner Robert Kraft, Commissioner Roger Goodell, Judge Arthur Boylan and NFLPA chief DeMaurice Smith.

The group reportedly met last week in Chicago.

This means that the season is expected to begin, as scheduled on Thursday, Sept. 8, when the New Orleans Saints play at Green Bay.



Thats awesome news! We should get a flurry of activity in a hurry when it ends.

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PostSubject: Re: Deal could get done   Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:34 pm

That was you! No worries, I won't post the video!
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PostSubject: Re: Deal could get done   Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:28 pm

FatThucker wrote:
That was you! No worries, I won't post the video!

Thank You! lol
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PostSubject: Re: Deal could get done   Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:24 pm

Fujita confirms progress is being made
Posted by Mike Florio on June 10, 2011, 10:33 PM EDT
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The positive signs continue to emerge regarding the ongoing labor talks, which took on a new dynamic last week via negotiations occurring without the lawyers involved.

According to Will Burge of WKNR in Cleveland, Browns linebacker Scott Fujita said Friday that “progress is being made, slowly but surely.”

That’s good news, assuming that the progress continues. At some point, things need to speed up, considerably.

Hopefully, that point is coming.

We’ve separately heard the NFLPA* executive director DeMaurice Smith has been updating players from specific teams regarding the status of the discussions. The obvious challenge in this regard comes from adhering to the court-mandated confidentiality while also giving the players useful information.

It’s too early to assume a deal is coming (notwithstanding a stray report that the lockout is “over,” which quickly was massaged without comment to “almost over”), but for the first time since the lockout began it’s becoming more and more clear that the parties are motivated to set aside the acrimony and focus on finding a win-win solution. Both sides deserve plenty of credit for putting the interests of the game and the fans above short-term strategies aimed at finagling a “win” at the bargaining table, or in court.

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PostSubject: Re: Deal could get done   Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:56 pm

Read somewhere a frame work deal is expected to be agreed upon within 2 weeks. Which will left the lockout and get the season started.
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PostSubject: Re: Deal could get done   Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:21 pm

Saw the deal should be done in 2-4 weeks..It will be interesting to see how Free Agency and signing draft picks moves along so close to training camp..

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PostSubject: Re: Deal could get done   Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:13 am

We've seen a string of positive reports regarding the NFL lockout in the last week and the good news continues to roll in. Mike Freeman of CBSSports.com reports that the discussions between the NFL players and owners, which continue this week, are 80-85 percent of the way done.

One source with intimate knowledge of the discussions tells me negotiations are 80-85 percent complete. They've made such fast progress, I'm told, it's catching many of the principals by surprise. Some are now canceling vacations, believing an agreement will be reached within a matter of days.

Sweet. Can't complain about that. Freeman also reports that the tone of the talks has changed dramatically where players and owners are now -- gasp! -- smiling. It sounds like legitimate negotiations are going down, which is what we've been waiting for.

The money quote, in my opinion, comes from a source Freeman cites: "It's going to be very difficult for this to get screwed up."
Please let that be true.
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PostSubject: Re: Deal could get done   Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:15 am

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Saw the deal should be done in 2-4 weeks..It will be interesting to see how Free Agency and signing draft picks moves along so close to training camp..

That article makes it sound like 2-4 days. I hope! Lets get back to CHIEFS FOOTBALL!
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PostSubject: Re: Deal could get done   Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:27 am

From Mike Florio

...First, the league and the players would reach an agreement in principle, most likely in the form of a written document that outlines the major terms of the deal and any changes to the minor terms of the expired CBA.

Second, the agreement in principle will be converted into a proposed settlement agreement of the Tom Brady antitrust action.

Third, the parties will work with Judge Susan Nelson to determine a fair and appropriate procedure for giving notice of the proposed settlement to every member of the class, and for providing each of them a chance to obtain information about the proposed deal and to object to the settlement.

Fourth, Judge Nelson will schedule a fairness hearing, at which time any players with objections to the proposed settlement may present their concerns. Ultimately, Judge Nelson will decide whether to approve the settlement.

Fifth, assuming that the settlement requires the union to be resurrected, the NFLPA* will be required at some point to take the steps necessary to make that happen. Presumably, this will entail the players having a chance to vote on the return of the union, and thus on the proposed settlement. If at least 50 percent of the players agree to reconstitute the union, the NFLPA* will lost its asterisk, and the CBA will dictate the terms of the relationship between the league and its players...



Still a lot of mumbo jumbo to happen. The lifting of the lockout will probably still be delayed a few weeks after an agreement.
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PostSubject: Re: Deal could get done   Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:30 pm

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/The-Ten-Step-Program.html

There are still a lot of obstacles overcome. This article doesn't even mention restricted free agency.
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PostSubject: Re: Deal could get done   Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:27 am

Report: New deal will move UFA threshold back to four years
Posted by Mike Florio on June 21, 2011, 3:54 PM EDT
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We’ve been saying for weeks now that, if/when a new labor deal is reached, the minimum number of years for unrestricted free agency will move back to four years. Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that, indeed, the pre-2010 rules will return.

It’s no surprise. The limit moved from four years to six in the uncapped year. For more than 15 years prior to that, the limit was four.

As a practical matter, it means that plenty of money will be flowing once the market opens, and those restricted free agency tenders applied to players with four year and five years of service, such as Vikings defensive end Ray Edwards, become meaningless.

In other words, things will be crazy whenever the NFL re-opens for the business. And we’ll be here to give you the latest on player movement, once the movement is allowed to happen.

UPDATE: As also expected, the franchise tag will remain in place, allowing players with four or more years of service and an expired contract to be held in place on a year-to-year basis. That said, there could be further limits applied to the device, such as a total number of times that it could be used on any one player.

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PostSubject: Re: Deal could get done   Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:42 pm

It may be time for Eighth Circuit, Judge Doty to issue rulings
Posted by Mike Florio on June 30, 2011, 7:03 PM EDT

Getty ImagesForgotten in the four-plus weeks of two-days-or-so-per-week talks has been the fact that two courts are holding in their back pockets (if black robes indeed have pockets) rulings that could potentially alter in significant ways the dynamics of the negotiations.

We’ve firmly believed that the primary role of U.S. Magistrate Judge Arthur Boylan over the past month has been to funnel information to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit, which eventually will (in theory) rule on the effort to lift the lockout, and Judge David Doty, who eventually will issue a ruling requiring the owners to pay the players 59 percent of the value of the money left on the table when the owners traded increases rights fees for lockout insurance. With continuous progress, neither court has issued a ruling, even though the appeal of Judge Susan Nelson’s order lifting the lockout supposedly has been expedited in all other respects.

We’re now starting to think, with mounting evidence of the talks sputtering, that it’s time for both courts to drop the gavel.

Otherwise, the talks will continue, even as they sputter. The players, who walked away from the table in March to widespread criticism, can’t afford to do it again. The owners likewise don’t want to be perceived as abandoning the process.

Thus, there’s only one way to shake things up. Actually, two ways. A ruling from the Eighth Circuit, and a ruling from Judge Doty.

Before that happens, Judge Boylan should stand up and tell the two sides that if they don’t have a deal by Tuesday, July 5, he’s going to give both courts the green light.

What, the owners and players don’t want to work through the Fourth of July weekend? Too bad. Plenty of other people will be working this weekend on jobs far less important than saving the football season.
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PostSubject: Re: Deal could get done   Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:45 am

Sense of urgency apparently has arrived, but will it last?
Posted by Mike Florio on June 30, 2011, 9:57 PM EDT
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When the NFL and the NFLPA* embarked on their recent strategy of weekly negotiations, which began secretly but have become increasingly less so, the fact that the parties were together only two days or so per week wasn’t particularly troubling. After all, communications could continue to occur in other formats when the two sides weren’t in the same room. Besides, at that point any meetings were better than the previous pattern of no meetings.

Within the past couple of weeks, the failure of the principals to make these talks their principle focus has become increasingly alarming. With much to do and not much time left to save the full preseason and the $800 million in cash that goes along with it, meeting for two days per week fails to create the kind of personal inconvenience that will cause the human beings involved in the discussions to focus on efficiency and productivity in order to get home to their spouses, their children, their beds, and their routines.

Perhaps the recent reversal of a slow-but-steady march of the tortoises was needed in order to grab the parties by their respective hair. Albert Breer of NFL Network reports that Thursday’s negotiations, which Mike Silver of Yahoo! Sports pegged earlier via Twitter as, on a scale of one to 10, at “about a 2” (he’s promising a comprehensive column later tonight, and I’ve promised to stop calling him a tease if/when he finally delivers it), have extended into the evening.

“I’ve heard the cries for weeks now — ‘Why aren’t they locked in a building, ’round the clock?’” Breer said. “Looks like people are getting their wish.”

It’s about damn time. With the talks at a crucial juncture, and with each side likely pondering whether there’s a way to walk away from the table without disappearing in an avalanche of negative P.R. (given that the media and the fans have been led to believe for a month that a deal is coming), it’s time to show the media and the fans that the parties are taking this matter seriously.

Come early. Stay late. Order in food. Work 18 hours a day. Do whatever is necessary to create the sense of personal frustration (and, in turn, razor-sharp focus) that will get the owners to quit playing the same games they were playing in March and that will get the players’ lawyers to accept the fact that a “run out the clock” strategy won’t derail the negotiation of a new deal.

The next question is whether the talks will continue on Friday. And then whether the assembled negotiators will decide to sacrifice their three-day holiday weekends in order to ensure that the season will be saved.

Both sides make billions from a nation of sports fans. It would be fitting, then, for the two sides to lock the doors and stay put on the anniversary of the nation’s birth.

The fireworks can wait until an agreement is reached.

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PostSubject: Re: Deal could get done   Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:45 am

The midnight oil finally burns
Posted by Mike Florio on July 1, 2011, 12:34 AM EDT
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As the saying goes, it’s always darkest before the dawn. Though I’ve never really believed that — the approaching sun actually makes the sky lighter before day begins to break — perhaps there’s context in which it applies.

Albert Breer of NFL Network, who has been stationed outside the NFL-NFLPA* talks since Thursday morning, reports that the talks are into their 15th hour.

It’s without question the longest negotiating session in which the parties have engaged to date. And it’s hard not to wonder what precisely has happened to make the parties suddenly decide, after an afternoon of talks that by all accounts returned a sense of gloom and doom to the process, to get sufficiently serious to negotiate deep into the night.

I’m staying put at the official PFT Commodore 64 until the talks break for the night. However long the talks last.

And if for some reason we end up getting unexpectedly good news, I might have to engage in a time-honored West Virginia tradition, and burn my couch.

Hopefully I’ll remember to take it outside first.

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PostSubject: Re: Deal could get done   Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:42 am

Talks begin to break up, well after midnight
Posted by Mike Florio on July 1, 2011, 1:35 AM EDT
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As I empty out the DVR with episodes of Wilfred and Louis C.K. while constantly checking Twitter for more tidbits from Albert Breer of NFL Network and e-mailing and/or DM-ing others who may have an inkling as to what in the hell is currently going on, the only thing anyone knows for sure at this point is that the parties are still meetings, well after midnight, Minnesota time.

Per Breer, the league representatives at the meeting gradually have been leaving, which suggests that the process has ended for the night — without a deal but apparently with a renewed commitment to working toward getting something done.

So let’s see when they get back together, and for how long.

UPDATE: Breer reports that the talks will resume at 8:00 a.m. CT on Friday, barely seven hours from now. And that is good news. Now let’s hope they’ll keep working until they can give us better news.

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PostSubject: Re: Deal could get done   Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:50 pm

Network said that talks took a step back because the owners changed the deal yesterday. Looks like the owners or pulling a little bait and switch tactics.
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PostSubject: Re: Deal could get done   Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:01 pm

It's bullshit if the owners are trying to deceive the players by secretly changing numbers, but I don't know that's the case. Lets say that the two sides are negotiating items A-Z. If items A-Y have been agreed upon, but the players won't budge on item Z, then the owners have the right to change their stance on item A. That's what is called negotiating. NOTHING is agreed upon until EVERYTHING is agreed upon and John Hancocks from both sides are put on a finalized CBA.
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PostSubject: Re: Deal could get done   Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:04 pm

A strong hint that a deal could be coming
Posted by Mike Florio on July 5, 2011, 5:35 PM EDT
James Quinn and Jeffrey Kessler, attorneys for the NFL Players Association enter a federal courthouse to resume court-ordered mediation in Minneapolis Reuters

As the media does its best to read the tea leaves regarding when or if a new CBA is coming, here’s one that arguably has more meaning than any others.

Jim Trotter of SI.com reports that the NFLPA* has renegotiated its contracts with outside counsel, and that the term “flat fee” is part of the deal.

This development strongly implies that guys like Jeffrey Kessler and Jim Quinn weren’t previously being paid by the hour in the Tom Brady lawsuit, but pursuant to a contingency fee arrangement, which would have given them a piece of the eventual verdict. Given that such a judgment after a lost season of football and the antitrust trebling effect could have exceeded $12 billion, the lawyers could have gotten $4 billion or more, subject to court approval.

By converting to a “flat fee,” the lawyers will get a sum certain, regardless of outcome or the amount of time spent on the matter.

That said, there’s also a chance that the adjustment has been made solely in order to reduce the heat on the lawyers, who are perceived to be an impediment to getting a deal done. By changing their compensation to a flat fee, it becomes harder to claim that they are trying to milk as many billable hours as possible out of the cash cow, or that they’re holding out for their 33.333333 percent of a gargantuan verdict.

Our flat fee is on the former. There’s no way that the lawyers would agree to a fixed sum for handling the balance of a lawsuit that could drag on, in theory, for years absent some certainty as to how much more time they’ll need to devote to the process.

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